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    David K.K. Hansen
    Joined: 12 Nov 2014

    @Giles in your personal experience, what top 3 fabrics/weights have been the most durable in Iron Heart jeans?  Not thinking about fades, but how resilient the jean has been to wear and tear.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      @Jett129:

      @Jett129:

      Here’s a,just curious,question for you. When you wrote to Haraki to inquire about repping the brand,had you ever seen any Iron Heart products in person?

      .          Maybe this one got lost in the thread?

      Yes, it did get lost, sorry.

      No I had not, the first time I actually saw an Iron Heart product, was when I opened the first carton shipped to me from Japan.

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        @BULLITT:

        @Giles in your personal experience, what top 3 fabrics/weights have been the most durable in Iron Heart jeans?  Not thinking about fades, but how resilient the jean has been to wear and tear.

        Hmmmm, I tend to wear a pair of jeans for about a year more or less non-stop.  Then I move on to the next great thing…

        If I had to make a stab at this, I'd go.

        25oz
        14oz
        19oz

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          Jett129
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          Joined: 17 Aug 2011

          @Giles:

          @Jett129:

          @Jett129:

          Here’s a,just curious,question for you. When you wrote to Haraki to inquire about repping the brand,had you ever seen any Iron Heart products in person?

          .          Maybe this one got lost in the thread?

          Yes, it did get lost, sorry.

          No I had not, the first time I actually saw an Iron Heart product, was when I opened the first carton shipped to me from Japan.                        Was the first carton just jeans,or other garments as well. What was your reaction when you first saw or tried on IH? Obviously it was favorable or we wouldn’t be having this conversation. I had said in a previous post that now,almost 10 years in,I’m still blown away every time I receive something from IH.

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            David K.K. Hansen
            Joined: 12 Nov 2014

            @Giles:

            @BULLITT:

            @Giles in your personal experience, what top 3 fabrics/weights have been the most durable in Iron Heart jeans?  Not thinking about fades, but how resilient the jean has been to wear and tear.

            Hmmmm, I tend to wear a pair of jeans for about a year more or less non-stop.  Then I move on to the next great thing…

            If I had to make a stab at this, I'd go.

            25oz
            14oz
            19oz

            Interesting!  Haven't tried 25oz yet, might have to give it a go as my next pair of jeans!

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              neph93
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              I would support 25oz as most resilient. I have a pair of 666-XHS that are five years old and have many hundred wear days. The crotch has been repaired twice, but that is a result of my tendency towards blow out in that area, especially with pairs that have a trim top block. Otherwise they are full of life, still thick and tough, and that is after being exposed to some very hard wear.

              The UHR also takes a kicking, not helpful I know, but it is very, very tough.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                David K.K. Hansen
                Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                I also tend to have to repair the crotch area several times over the lifespan of my jeans.  At first I thought it was due to bicycle riding, but this year I haven't ridden at all and the crotch still blows out.  So I guess it's just how I wear my jeans.

                I'm going to give the 25oz a try, this much I know!  Would be a nice bonus if they're less often in need of repairs, time will tell.

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                  Giles
                  IHUK Crew
                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                  If you are prone to crotch blow-outs, and it is a matter of physique more than anything, then the thicker the denim, the more likely a crotch blow-out becomes.

                  I wear my jeans hard and I have never had a crotch go, I know people who can do that in a month.

                  Just the way you're made.

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    @Jett129 To some degree, you've answered your own question 🙂

                    But let's take the quality as given, what makes Iron Heart what it is, is that Haraki is relatively open to ideas, is mildly western aware, is a humble modest man and easy-ish to work with.

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      I would be intrigued to see Haraki’s take on a work pant with a diamond crotch gusset.

                      And @Giles, can the 705/714 UHS serge fabric be made again? Or is it to heavy to attempt another run? Many years ago, I had to make a terrible, unthinkable choice between one of the last UHR’s or one of the last Black 714’s. I chose the UHR and have always felt longing for “what could have been”…

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                        David K.K. Hansen
                        Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                        @Giles:

                        If you are prone to crotch blow-outs, and it is a matter of physique more than anything, then the thicker the denim, the more likely a crotch blow-out becomes.

                        I wear my jeans hard and I have never had a crotch go, I know people who can do that in a month.

                        Just the way you're made.

                        Yup, I figured as much at it's my body type that causes this, but do you think the lighter weights have a lesser chance for this happening?  Why do you reckon this is?

                        In the end I'll just accept it as unavoidable and go with the denim I like most.  But curious as to why it would happen more frequently with the heavier stuff.

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          Crotch blow-outs are caused mainly by the friction of the upper thighs rubbing together, the thicker the denim, the greater the friction….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            @adam313:

                            Or is it to heavy to attempt another run?

                            Not necessarily, but not at the top of the list of priorities I'm afraid.  I do agree, it was an amazing fabric….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              neph93
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                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @Giles:

                              Crotch blow-outs are caused mainly by the friction of the upper thighs rubbing together, the thiccer the thighs, the greater the friction….

                              Fixed that so it applies to me…

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
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                                David K.K. Hansen
                                Joined: 12 Nov 2014

                                Haha Neph, in the same boat here!

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                                  Deuce
                                  Joined: 13 Apr 2020

                                  Hey @Giles - I was browsing Haraki's blog and any idea what denim cut the first photo here is?  Thanks!

                                  http://shin3155.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-6681.html

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                                    neph93
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                                    @Deuce they look a lot like 555's to me.

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                                    • Virginia Woolf
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                                      Kasi
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                                      Joined: 9 Oct 2014

                                      It friend of mine from Australia
                                      He was inspired by me having a pair 555 25oz.

                                      His jeans 555

                                      The world's insane
                                      While you drink champagne
                                      And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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                                        neph93
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                                        ^Well done @Kasi

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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                                          Kasi
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                                          You welcome. Reuben

                                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                                          The world's insane
                                          While you drink champagne
                                          And I'm livin' in black rain 4Q 🖕

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