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    Palmer
    Iron Heart Deity
    Joined: 4 Jan 2019

    I just got some lace to toe Jobmasters and the kiltie keeps slipping down towards the toe. How do you guys keep it from slipping?

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      Palmer
      Iron Heart Deity
      Joined: 4 Jan 2019

      @Palmer:

      I just got some lace to toe Jobmasters and the kiltie keeps slipping down towards the toe. How do you guys keep it from slipping?

      After trying a few different lacing configurations I figured out a solution. Nevermind!

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        den1mhead
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 6 Oct 2014

        @Palmer:

        @Palmer:

        I just got some lace to toe Jobmasters and the kiltie keeps slipping down towards the toe. How do you guys keep it from slipping?

        After trying a few different lacing configurations I figured out a solution. Nevermind!

        @Palmer this is how I get around the issue of kilties slipping down towards the toe.

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          Palmer
          Iron Heart Deity
          Joined: 4 Jan 2019

          @den1mhead thanks for the tip. My friend suggested trying that method after I posted this question. I ended up settling on this lacing style.

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            den1mhead
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 6 Oct 2014

            @Palmer:

            @den1mhead thanks for the tip. My friend suggested trying that method after I posted this question. I ended up settling on this lacing style.

            That'll work but you still may find the kiltie eventually works it way down towards the toe. With a few different methods in your arsenal you will no doubt find a solution that works all the time. Great boots btw  😎

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              Palmer
              Iron Heart Deity
              Joined: 4 Jan 2019

              Thanks, I'll try to take some photos tomorrow in the light of them. They're the Wesco x Black Bear Brand Jobmasters.

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                Chap
                見習いボス
                Joined: 24 May 2016

                No big fan of long kilties too

                God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                  Javier
                  Joined: 1 May 2020

                  Hi everyone;
                  i bought the 12oz Selvedge Denim Western Shirt "The Johnny Cash III" - Black - Size : XXL, Colour : Black; but started to think that it would be better to change it to XXXL (Triple XL).  I think that based on the measurements from this shirt, a Triple XXXL will fit better in the shoulders without looking too loose or baggy.

                  Feedback is always appreciated.

                  My metrics:
                  Height          6' 4"
                  Weight        212 lbs
                  Shoulders    20.00
                  Length   28.00
                  Chest Total  42.25
                  Chest (P2P)  21.13
                  Waist   19.75
                  Opening   20.00
                  Sleeves   25.50
                  Cuffs           4.25

                  Cheers to all!
                  Javier M.

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    @Javier:

                    Hi everyone;
                    i bought the 12oz Selvedge Denim Western Shirt "The Johnny Cash III" - Black - Size : XXL, Colour : Black; but started to think that it would be better to change it to XXXL (Triple XL).  I think that based on the measurements from this shirt, a Triple XXXL will fit better in the shoulders without looking too loose or baggy.

                    It is almost impossible to judge based on your body measurements. The recommended method it to measure a shirt you own that fits well using the same method as shown on the product page, then buy the size that is closest. That being said, I doubt you need XXXL if you weigh 212lbs.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Jett129
                      見習いボス
                      Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                      Those measurements look to be a little on the small size compared to the published measurements. Mine is also a little bit smaller than published measurements,but definitely not as tight as that one. Maybe you @Javier could ask IHUK if they have an XXL with bigger measurements as opposed to sizing up to a XXL. Or maybe there’s an XXXL that is smaller?

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                        DrPat
                        Iron Heart Deity
                        Joined: 9 Oct 2009

                        @neph93:

                        @Javier:

                        Hi everyone;
                        i bought the 12oz Selvedge Denim Western Shirt "The Johnny Cash III" - Black - Size : XXL, Colour : Black; but started to think that it would be better to change it to XXXL (Triple XL).  I think that based on the measurements from this shirt, a Triple XXXL will fit better in the shoulders without looking too loose or baggy.

                        It is almost impossible to judge based on your body measurements. The recommended method it to measure a shirt you own that fits well using the same method as shown on the product page, then buy the size that is closest. That being said, I doubt you need XXXL if you weigh 212lbs.

                        Also, if you post some photos of yourself wearing the shirt we will be able to give you better feedback.

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                          Giles
                          IHUK Crew
                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                          Javier does not have it yet.  He's ordered it, but is now questioning his sizing decision.  The boys will help him on Monday…

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            jake77
                            Joined: 25 May 2017

                            I couldn't find the answer to these question on the forum, but if here, please let me know the link or thread where I can find the answer to these 2 questions:

                            Is IH denim treated with starch as a sizing? And if so, what's the source of the starch? Corn, wheat, etc.?

                            Has the IH denim been treated with formaldehyde, as are most conventional denim jeans? If not, why isn't this mentioned? And vice versa? Seems like an important distinction between raw and non-raw denim.

                            Thanks.

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                              neph93
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                              @jake77:

                              I couldn't find the answer to these question on the forum, but if here, please let me know the link or thread where I can find the answer to these 2 questions:

                              Is IH denim treated with starch as a sizing? And if so, what's the source of the starch? Corn, wheat, etc.?

                              Has the IH denim been treated with formaldehyde, as are most conventional denim jeans? If not, why isn't this mentioned? And vice versa? Seems like an important distinction between raw and non-raw denim.

                              Thanks.

                              The different IH denims are all designed from scratch and the treatments (or lack thereof) are different from denim to denim.

                              There is also a debate as to what «raw» means. IHUK have now taken the position that «raw» really should be a synonym for «loomstate» and as such only the now defunct UHR denim was truly raw. That is to say a denim that has received no treatment after weaving or sewing.

                              Otherwise the level of finishing treatment varies. Some denims (the XHS for example) are partially sanforised. The flagship 21oz receives quite a lot of finishing treatment to retard fading, skewing etc. The 19oz LHT has anti-skewing treatment to stabilise the denim and to reduce leg twist.

                              Starch is used as a sizing agent in some IH denim, but not all. I don’t know the source of the starch I’m afraid, @Giles might be able to tell you.

                              EDIT: it should be noted regarding the distinction between raw/not raw, that these distinctions are not particularly important to Haraki-san, in and of themselves. He has said that selvedge denim for the sake of selvedge denim isn’t a big deal to him, for example. If he could weave the denim he wants on wide looms, he would.

                              “Some of those that work forces
                              Are the same that burn crosses”

                              • Virginia Woolf
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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                All IH denim (in fact all denim that I know of) uses a sizing agent to reduce friction in the weaving process.  Sizing is not a post weave process, it is a vital part of the process itself.

                                In one of the mills…

                                A warm bubbly bath of sizing agent

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  jake77
                                  Joined: 25 May 2017

                                  Thanks gents. Interesting point of views about what "raw denim" means and what its real value is. I guess as a marketing term, it's at least an indication that the products using so-called raw denim are qualitatively different from non-raw denim. What that means… Well that's the opportunity to make a statement. And to creatively differentiate. Selvedge does offer an "almost vintage" quality -- and the colorful selvedge stitching is distinctive. The craft of making these denims also seem a vast improvement over the much less expensive alternatives.

                                  Sizing -- interesting to know it's about the thread -- and not applied post weaving. The materials used in the sizing may only be of interest to a data driven individual, but I find it useful and not simply trivia. Starch traditionally was the byproduct of washing the starch from wheat, and vital wheat gluten (a mainly wheat gluten based flour) was a popular product out of Australia -- used for meat-like high protein meat substitutes. For those without gluten sensitivites.

                                  Any information about formaldehyde on the denim used? Doesn't smell like there's much formaldehyde. Does no one really care?

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                                    ROman
                                    Haraki san Prodigy
                                    Joined: 5 Jan 2015

                                    Interesting what I learn. I use it in whole wheat /whole grain breads.  ::)

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                                      Alex_24
                                      Haraki san Expert
                                      Joined: 31 May 2019

                                      Complete change of topic: What’s the latest word on the new release of IH Sneakers, particularly the brown duck version please?

                                      last edited by 5 May 2020, 06:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        The low-tops are on hold.  We had to make some hard decisions about what products we dropped from FW20 and other items that were in the pipeline.  We felt that if we were going to have significant cash-flow issues, we needed to protect the factories and workshops that really matter to us.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Alex_24
                                          Haraki san Expert
                                          Joined: 31 May 2019

                                          Ok, good call and a sound business decision in these strange times…

                                          Hopefully, the sneakers will make a triumphant return once we’re back to a semblance of normality.

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