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    • GilesG
      Giles
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      Further to my comments above, your post got us discussing about things we have talked about, but never followed through with.

      So, we have decided to sample the IH-777S-21 with a shorter inseam length, but with the same cuff opening as the current version, this will allow us to offer different inseam lengths with the same cuff opening, in essentially the same cut.  This should work well for shorter-legged folk who don't want to lose taper when their jeans are hemmed….

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      • neph93N
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        @Giles:

        People can talk about blanket lined jeans, but I won't be engaging anytime soon 🙂

        This has been talked about and asked for, for as long as I’ve been around here in one form or another. UHF lined, blanket lined, otherwise insulated jeans. I personally cannot understand the fascinastion but it seems to inspire others.

        If it is a matter of warmth then nothing will ever work as well as having woolen long johns under your jeans. The combination would be a far superior a solution to lined jeans in every way.

        «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
        We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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        • M
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          My comment re: pocket size was more related to a Type II. I get that Type III pockets are somewhat restricted by size. Type II pockets may have a bit more wiggle room. TSG's Type II has great, large pockets.

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            Re: taper, I no pattern cutter so I don't know, but is it possible to taper from the knee to an inseam length of 32", and then straight to 36"? Then regardless of hemmed inseam length the hem width would be consistent. Don't know if it's possible or not. I can see that might look really odd for for long inseam lengths.

            Offering 2 different lengths with the same profile and hem width would please a lot of fellas, as this has been brought up more than once over the years.

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            • GilesG
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              @mpukas:

              Re: taper, I no pattern cutter so I don't know, but is it possible to taper from the knee to an inseam length of 32", and then straight to 36"?

              Not if you want to use selvedge denim, want a flattering cut and preserve the selvedge ID on the outseam.

              And re: the Type III/type II confusion.  Sorry, I cant read :-).  Let me have a think about the Type II pocket size….

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                Another question - why do western UHF's have a button at the collar instead of a snap? All of the other IH westerns I have in other fabrics have a snap at the collar. The UHF fabric is so thick that's it's nearly if entirely not possible to button it.

                I only use the top button/snap to put the shirt on a hanger. I can't button/snap the top fastener on IH westerns anyway, as the neck measurement is too small for me. I need a XXL in neck, shoulder and chest measurements, and an XL in body & sleeve length, waist and opening measurements.

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                • ?
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                  If you had a beard you would understand

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                  • GilesG
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                    I don't know the definite answer to that.  I thought for a while that having a button at the neck was to prevent beard hair getting caught in the snap, and then we started making shirts with snaps all the way through..

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      @Giles:

                      Not if you want to use selvedge denim, want a flattering cut and preserve the selvedge ID on the outseam

                      But the taper from crotch to hem on any cut is done on the inseam to preserve the selvedge outseam. Like I said, I'm no pattern cutter, not trying to argue, just trying to understand… Why can't the last 4" be parallel to the outseam?

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                      • ?
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                        They do indeed get caught on the female part of the snap.

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                          @Giles:

                          …I thought for a while that having a button at the neck was to prevent beard hair getting caught in the snap...

                          On cheaper non-IH brands, I have that problem of whiskers getting caught in the snap's crimp. But I've never had that problem w/ IH snaps. Quite remarkable actually, and another small sign of IH superior quality.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            @Giles:

                            I don't know the definite answer to that.  I thought for a while that having a button at the neck was to prevent beard hair getting caught in the snap, and then we started making shirts with snaps all the way through..

                            Probably not the reason, but snaps require you to mash the snap from the outside against whatever flesh is underneath it, be that in this case your neck or a digit. Perhaps that's thought to be awkward at the neck.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • GilesG
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                              @mpukas:

                              @Giles:

                              Not if you want to use selvedge denim, want a flattering cut and preserve the selvedge ID on the outseam

                              But the taper from crotch to hem on any cut is done on the inseam to preserve the selvedge outseam. Like I said, I'm no pattern cutter, not trying to argue, just trying to understand… Why can't the last 4" be parallel to the outseam?

                              Good point.  And maybe it is possible.I'll talk to Tom and H next time I see them.

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                @Giles:

                                I'd love to do a work jacket and will give it some thought, historically the ones we have made have not sold well, but that is probably because the cuts were significantly less than ideal 🙂

                                I was thinking of IH existing Work Jacket in hickory stripe. I love the simplicity of the Work Jacket.

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                                • madmondayM
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                                  fantasy thread so here goes

                                  superblack / the OG no fade type /  storm rider with a black cord collar, black cord lined pockets and blanket lining

                                  navy blue or really any other color IHTL-1501

                                  please and thanks

                                  head high, middle finger higher

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Exactly what were going to do and then we decided to do a Type III instead - sorry….

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      There was a pretty interesting history of the Storm Rider,yesterday, on Heddels.

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                                      • gaseousclayG
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                                        @Giles

                                        Any news on that type III that’s using the 22oz Pronto denim?

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                                        WTB:
                                        IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                        IHSH-19

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                                        • AlexA
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                                          It is in production as we speak

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @gaseousclay:

                                            @Giles

                                            Any news on that type III that’s using the 22oz Pronto denim?

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                                            Update on the relevant thread shortly but I’ve recently invested in the PIHAN10T and that denim is the absolute tits. I’m bowled over. Anything else made out of it will have my attention.

                                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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