Random questions to which you seek an answer
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For starters,you'll learn,over time that some shirts or jeans just won't work out for you when it comes to measurements. You should get a tape measure,watch the IH video on how to measure shirts,and then measure the shirt that you really like and use those numbers as a base line for knowing what will fit you the best. If you really like a shirt and one of the measurements is off,say sleeve length,you can always ask the IHUK crew to look for a shirt that might satisfy your measurement needs. Occasionally quite a few of us have just had to pass on an item because the measurements just weren't going to work out. Hope this helps.
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Hey, I appreciate the input on the sizing. I assumed that the size charts were somewhat accurate and the sizing from shirt to shirt was consistent but, I can see now it's sort of hit or miss. Obviously, the best is to go somewhere to try the shirts on, I bought the flannel at Self Edge in SF but, they don't carry all styles.
I may give IH direct another shot at some point to see if I can nail something I like, thanks again!
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Like @Jett129 said, ALL! of us have had to pass on amazing garments that did not have the ideal measurements.
If we’re going to consider variables as to why certain measurements could be off, let’s consider ALL the variables, just to be fair:
-thicknesses of fabrics: the UHF is thick to begin with and then brushed which adds bulk. It will feel smaller for the same dimensions. The chambray, by contrast is a lighter and thinner fabric, and is not brushed and likely feels larger for the same or similar outside measurements as the UHF.
-sample size of measurements: the crew only measures a few individual shirts and averages them. Not every shirt is exactly the same. However, the crew will also measure the specific shirt you buy before you buy it, so that should take care of that. But if you are comparing the sizing charts only, then those might not be the most precise for all shirts.
-person measuring, their personal precision and the measuring instrument of choice: For an example of the huge margin for error, take a few of your shirts and do the best you can to replicate the IH measuring method and then compare your measurements to the chart for that shirt, they might be off slightly, everyone is different and not programmable unfortunately.
-the Iron Heart measurement chart is probably the most accurate chart for most things (compared to other charts out there)
-is your UHF a workshirt or western?: the work shirt cut is MUCH more roomy through the midsection across all fabrics. I don’t own one so I can’t be specific, but I might even size down if I ever chose to buy one, which I won’t unless they have snaps. On the UHF being larger in both the chest and the waist, if it is a western, they have a distinct curve to them that makes them feel so tailored (at least on my mediums). It starts wide in the chest and then narrows through the midsection and has a slight flare towards the bottom, and maybe that is part of the reason for a larger discrepancy between the measurements on your two shirts
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Hey, I appreciate the input on the sizing. I assumed that the size charts were somewhat accurate and the sizing from shirt to shirt was consistent
Nope, and any brand that uses people to make their stuff will have the same issue, it's just that we actually acknowledge it.
- Work out your ideal size by measuring something that fits you well as we do
- Use the compare size function: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=12249.0
- Ask us to look for a shirt with the smallest chest/longest arm/wideset shoulder/whatever-you-need….
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@Merv don’t worry too much, it isn’t as tricky as it seems at first, and it certainly gets easier with experience. There is a huge amount of data available both from IHUK and through this forum. It is just a case of learning how to use it.
All of the above stands from @Jett129 , @adam313 and @Giles , but part of your specific challenge involves the difference between work shirts and westerns. They are different styles of shirt and are cut and constructed differently.
The limitation with measurements is that what happens between the measurements isn’t knowable, based on a chart. So a work shirt may have a smaller chest measurement than a western but still be cut so that it fits looser. Just not over that line from pit to pit. If you imagine the line between the chest, waist and opening you will get an idea of how the shirt is cut. But shoulders size, sleeve length etc all play a role. Some folks only wear one or the other, some folks size down on the work shirts, compared to westerns. It all depends on taste, body shape, and the individual shirt.
Most IH westerns are cut the same or similar. They follow the same pattern. So using your UHF to compare to other westerns is a fairly safe bet. But comparing work shirts to westerns is like comparing the proverbial apples and oranges.
If you have questions about a specific shirt feel free to check that thread, ask questions there or here.
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Hey,
The two shirts I had my eye on were the Military Serge Western and the Selvedge Chamray Western. It goes without saying, these are major investments, for sure want to get the fit right!
Thanks everyone for the input and help… the quest continues for the perfect IH shirt! -
Hey,
The two shirts I had my eye on were the Military Serge Western and the Selvedge Chambray Western. It goes without saying, these are major investments, for sure want to get the fit right!
Thanks everyone for the input and help… the quest continues for the perfect IH shirt!Drop an email to shop@ironheart.co.uk. The guys who work there are
fuckingpretty good at nailing fits for people - it's their job
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are you all going to stock the 9555z?
please and thank you
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thanks for fast reply
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Hi guys… New to the forum, been lurking for some time, finally decided to post. I’m a total noob so forgive the dumbass question (I hear the mods around here are miserable sods).
Will gently hand washing denim at very cool temps (30C or even below), minimise shrinkage in jeans that still have shrinkage in left in them?
(Ok it’s me, but I really don’t know the answer to this...help).
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Which dimension are you most concerned about shrinkage? I’ve found that even hand washing in cold water the garment,after air drying will tighten up a little, but zero change in sleeve or inseam length. If I’ve had beers,cheeseburgers and ice cream,then they tighten up a little more.
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I do gentle (wool) cycles and hang dry and even my raws have reacted minimally to that.
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@Jett129 This is with regards to the smaller pair of PIHAN10T I was wearing the other day. I think you’re right that cheeseburgers and ice cream are a greater threat than shrinkage [emoji1]Tit is the thigh/knee I’m most concerned about. I’ll tolerate the regular 2% drying at it will stretch out, but a bigger size reduction (smaller than og measurements) will be toughe to work with without corsetry.
@mclaincausey thank you. That was the conclusion I was reaching myself (and what I wanted to hear).
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Yes, cold handwashes will minimize the shrinkage for the first wash for sure.
But when shrink is still left in the fabric, future washes will always shrink them a bit more. Although you probably won't reach "full shrinkage" ever with only cold hand washes. -
Avoid agitation and heat.
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Avoid agitation and heat.
Pretty much the rules I try and live by in life in general
. I’m with you 100%.
