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    • mclaincauseyM
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      Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

      Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

      If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

      Think it, be it.

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      • Matty123M
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        Best ganja I ever copped  was in Denver. This was pre-legal era too. Thank you Denver.

        Maybe so. Maybe not

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        • dave28D
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          @mclaincausey:

          Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

          Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

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          • manufc10M
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            @dave28:

            @mclaincausey:

            Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

            Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

            I'm not familiar with that in my neck of the woods.  There's tons of dispensaries in the Phoenix area with endless amounts of high quality shit.  I don't even know if the kids these days buy their shit off the streets anymore.  I know the adults don't.

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            • manufc10M
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              @mclaincausey:

              Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

              Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

              If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

              truth ^^^

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              • tvenutoT
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                @Max:

                Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                The best part about purposefully getting loaded on your own is you get to execute exactly how you want, and that includes the drink selection. Feel like kicking off with a beer, then moving on to some high end bourbon, before finishing off with some 20 year rum straight outa the bottle? It’s all you! Want to make the biggest pina colada ever and drink it out off a hollowed-out watermelon? Ain’t nobody stopping you!

                My only regret is that I didn’t do this more often when it was easy to get some alone time. You guys might get nostalgic about punk rock shows and skating, but I get nostalgic about getting blitzed on some old overholt mint juleps, and tearing up at the end of Kill Bill II. Or putting on some RJD2 and Handsome Boy Modeling School a bit too loud and smoking a cigar on the front steps, and then attempting to smoke a second only to give up about 40% of the way in. Ah the good old days when you could do this on a Wednesday and still do OK at work the next day.

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                • spitfiredealerS
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                  @dave28:

                  @mclaincausey:

                  Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                  Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                  Is soap bar still about?!! Haven't seen any round our way for ages!

                  I can't believe it will be too long till the UK gets it's act together and legalise this beneficial plant. If the USA can do it surely we can!!

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    @manufc10:

                    @dave28:

                    @mclaincausey:

                    Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                    Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                    I'm not familiar with that in my neck of the woods.  There's tons of dispensaries in the Phoenix area with endless amounts of high quality shit.  I don't even know if the kids these days buy their shit off the streets anymore.  I know the adults don't.

                    Well I live in Denver, so we are very laissez faire about it here, but it's not that way everywhere, and the past of persecuting drug users will always be a part of our history, no matter how lax laws become moving forward.

                    I think (hope) that a wiser future version of humanity will one day look back on us and laugh at our weird little hang-ups.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • ChrisC
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                      @spitfiredealer:

                      I can't believe it will be too long till the UK gets it's act together and legalise this beneficial plant. If the USA can do it surely we can!!

                      Beneficial might be going a bit far.

                      And to be clear, the US hasn't legalized it.  At the federal level, marijuana possession is still criminal.  Some states have legalized it to varying degrees, but the legal implications are nowhere near settled.

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                      • manufc10M
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                        9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

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                        • manufc10M
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                          And let's be real….it's not exactly difficult to obtain a medical card so medically legal is damn near legal on a recreational level.  However in AZ you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

                          Edit:  That's federal law that you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Beneficial is in no way overstating it if you've seen what it can do for patients of neurological disorders who have failed to have a decent lifestyle on antiseizure medications, whose side effects rival the seizures themselves in the discomfort they impart, or cancer patients who have found an alternative to opiate analgesics for chronic pain.

                            But more broadly, industrial uses for hemp also make the plant net beneficial for our species.

                            The countercultural associations that were created by outlawing the plant mask the genuine benefits it offers society.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • ChrisC
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                              @manufc10:

                              9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

                              I agree, it's inevitable.  I was simply pointing out that it isn't here just yet.

                              As for marijuana's benefits, I think we're going to need to see a lot more clinical studies and rigorous research into the short and long term effects; something we haven't had much of yet, since research on illegal drugs is problematic for a host of reasons.

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                              • Matty123M
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                                @Chris:

                                @manufc10:

                                9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

                                I agree, it's inevitable.  I was simply pointing out that it isn't here just yet.

                                As for marijuana's benefits, I think we're going to need to see a lot more clinical studies and rigorous research into the short and long term effects; something we haven't had much of yet, since research on illegal drugs is problematic for a host of reasons.

                                Oops.

                                EDIT: And for the record I no longer partake. I benefited greatly and have laid it down.

                                Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  Me neither. But if I ever have a disease that cannabis will help, I'll sign up for it. And to those who use recreationally, it's none of my or the government's business how you get your kicks.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                    Figured this thread needed this video.

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                                    • GraemeG
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                                      I was in LA in the summer, and in some parts of the city the smell of cannabis was pretty strong.

                                      I caught the Greyhound from LA to Utah, and I remember the driver telling passengers that even though possession of marijuana was legal in some places, carrying it across state lines was a Federal offense, and counted as trafficking…

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                                      • Matty123M
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                                        I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                        • gaseousclayG
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                                          I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                                          Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                                          • Matty123M
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                                            @Matty123:

                                            I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                                            Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                                            Because the gas lobby and automotive lobby has paid politicians to kill any and all attempts to have such  train. It’s frustrating as all hell.

                                            Maybe so. Maybe not

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