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    • dave28D
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      @Matty123:

      Straight edge my ass. I bet every one of the SxE people had a vice or an addiction. Unless your a Buddhist monk u ain’t straight edge or hardcore. Peace and love peace and love

      Maybe not. I near match them even though I never heard of them. I don't smoke, don't drink, don't do drugs, extremely rare I take Dr pills, no coffee and could quit tea if I really wanted.
      A few of the other bits I think I could do because I have a real taste for fruit these days.

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      • Matty123M
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        I shouldn’t have spouted off. I respect whatever anyone wants to do. Youre on your path. I dig it.  I just want to fade the shit out of some denim.

        Maybe so. Maybe not

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          Couldn't care less what others do as long as it doesn't interfere with what others (most especially myself and my loved ones, but ALL others) are doing. I've been "sXe" in a couple of forms throughout my life, and there is no question that there are people who live without vice.

          There's also no question that, whether self-righteous or not, MacKaye lived his values. $5 shows, all all-ages, a do-it-yourself record label, never took major label bait, would crusade against violence in the audience, conscious lyrics about societal ills, etc. He made decisions that are easy to ridicule from afar, but would be impossible to make without character and commitment to ideals. It would be one thing if there were evidence of hypocrisy, but until I see it, I'll continue to admire him.

          –decidedly NOT sXe-y

          Think it, be it.

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          • Stuart.TS
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            @Matty123:

            I shouldn’t have spouted off. I respect whatever anyone wants to do. Youre on your path. I dig it.  I just want to fade the shit out of some denim.

            'And it harm none, do what ye wilt'… @matty123...I am a past master at spouting off mate, no worries. I'm with you, my life now consists of avoiding trouble, having the easiest and happiest day possible, and working on those fades  😉

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            • tvenutoT
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              Grains and grass beget 2 things: meat and booze. Your binocular vision allows you to hunt down the former and reach for the latter without spilling. Maybe this is an unpop op, but I hope not.

              But hey, live and let live. I’m perfectly happy not sharing.

              Another unpop op: drinking alone is awesome. I’m convinced there’s a social stigma attached because people don’t want you having so much fun without them.

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              • organisysO
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                @tvenuto:

                drinking alone is awesome.

                especially whisky

                😛

                Pride of Japan :-)

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                • Stuart.TS
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                  Drinking spirits alone conjure two images for me…a troubled beat generation author or poet who's lost their mojo...or someone sitting in a puddle of their own piss eating a maxi bag of Doritos for lunch....doing the job I do I know the later is more of a reality.

                  That said, I enjoy the odd lonesome rum..while I'm deciding on the title of the 7th chapter and whether or not I can be bothered to get up to take a slash or not

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                  • Max PowerM
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                    Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                    One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                    That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                    @elclintor:

                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                    • Stuart.TS
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                      @Max:

                      Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                      One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                      That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                      I agree @Max Power to some degree. I enjoy a good rum,  whisky, gin, or ale. That said my politicised views of sxe still stand. The socio economics of alcohol and tobacco are horrendous. The long term health deficits of alcohol use are serious, even for us casual drinkers. Our bodies are only designed to process toxins in small amounts, anymore puts undue stress so they cannot function properly.

                      Teenage sxe without education and facts is not quite pointless, but will certainly be a fad for the young. Like most things, sxe meant something before the popular media decided to expose and exploit it.

                      I have worked for 18 years 8n health and social care in the UK and have seen the effects first hand. The cost to the NHS of alcohol, tobacco, and diet related disease is astronomical and just cannot be sustained. I am all for taxing alcohol and tobacco into oblivion. Sure I enjoy a good quality drink, but not being able to do it anymore would be a small price for a healthier population and NHS.

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                      • mclaincauseyM
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                        Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

                        Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

                        If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

                        Think it, be it.

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                        • Matty123M
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                          Best ganja I ever copped  was in Denver. This was pre-legal era too. Thank you Denver.

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • dave28D
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                            Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                            Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

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                            • manufc10M
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                              @dave28:

                              @mclaincausey:

                              Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                              Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                              I'm not familiar with that in my neck of the woods.  There's tons of dispensaries in the Phoenix area with endless amounts of high quality shit.  I don't even know if the kids these days buy their shit off the streets anymore.  I know the adults don't.

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                              • manufc10M
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                                @mclaincausey:

                                Cannabis, on the other hand, has myriad sustainable industrial and healthcare uses and offers a net benefit to society, only becoming otherwise when criminalized.

                                Even when I was sXe I always thought it was ludicrous that any entity would seek to dictate to private, sovereign citizens what they ingest into their bodies. That people have been locked in cages for something as comparatively (to alcohol and tobacco) harmless as pot always seemed to be a criminal abuse of power and a grievous injustice to me. Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant, while people are brutalized and killed routinely in drunken rampages or by the ravages of alcohol on their bodies.

                                If we don't have freedom of cognition, we don't have freedom. I still believe that. Perhaps another unpopular opinion, and one I've shared here before: decriminalize all drugs.

                                truth ^^^

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                                • tvenutoT
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                                  @Max:

                                  Why should a good dram not be enjoyed alone? I have a harder time understanding drinking one in a crowded place with the wrong glass or ice.

                                  One of the main Problems I had with SxE at one time (although I've been it for many years) was, that there's a difference between drinking for the sole purpose of getting drunk or partying and enjoying the taste (not the alcohol) of a fine drink. SxE focusses on the first part which makes sense when you're 16 but the second part was more important when you're over 25.
                                  That's why I abandonded that concept one day.

                                  The best part about purposefully getting loaded on your own is you get to execute exactly how you want, and that includes the drink selection. Feel like kicking off with a beer, then moving on to some high end bourbon, before finishing off with some 20 year rum straight outa the bottle? It’s all you! Want to make the biggest pina colada ever and drink it out off a hollowed-out watermelon? Ain’t nobody stopping you!

                                  My only regret is that I didn’t do this more often when it was easy to get some alone time. You guys might get nostalgic about punk rock shows and skating, but I get nostalgic about getting blitzed on some old overholt mint juleps, and tearing up at the end of Kill Bill II. Or putting on some RJD2 and Handsome Boy Modeling School a bit too loud and smoking a cigar on the front steps, and then attempting to smoke a second only to give up about 40% of the way in. Ah the good old days when you could do this on a Wednesday and still do OK at work the next day.

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                                  • spitfiredealerS
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                                    @dave28:

                                    @mclaincausey:

                                    Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                                    Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                                    Is soap bar still about?!! Haven't seen any round our way for ages!

                                    I can't believe it will be too long till the UK gets it's act together and legalise this beneficial plant. If the USA can do it surely we can!!

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      @dave28:

                                      @mclaincausey:

                                      Lives and families have been destroyed over this innocuous plant

                                      Yep. The lives of users has been destroyed by adulterated grade of crap sold in the UK by criminals. Highly carcinogenic junk nicknamed soapbar or ratbar. Probably similar rubbish all over the world.

                                      I'm not familiar with that in my neck of the woods.  There's tons of dispensaries in the Phoenix area with endless amounts of high quality shit.  I don't even know if the kids these days buy their shit off the streets anymore.  I know the adults don't.

                                      Well I live in Denver, so we are very laissez faire about it here, but it's not that way everywhere, and the past of persecuting drug users will always be a part of our history, no matter how lax laws become moving forward.

                                      I think (hope) that a wiser future version of humanity will one day look back on us and laugh at our weird little hang-ups.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • ChrisC
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                                        @spitfiredealer:

                                        I can't believe it will be too long till the UK gets it's act together and legalise this beneficial plant. If the USA can do it surely we can!!

                                        Beneficial might be going a bit far.

                                        And to be clear, the US hasn't legalized it.  At the federal level, marijuana possession is still criminal.  Some states have legalized it to varying degrees, but the legal implications are nowhere near settled.

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                                        • manufc10M
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                                          9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

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                                          • manufc10M
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                                            And let's be real….it's not exactly difficult to obtain a medical card so medically legal is damn near legal on a recreational level.  However in AZ you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

                                            Edit:  That's federal law that you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

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