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    • manufc10M
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      9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

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      • manufc10M
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        And let's be real….it's not exactly difficult to obtain a medical card so medically legal is damn near legal on a recreational level.  However in AZ you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

        Edit:  That's federal law that you can't own a firearm if you have your card.

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          Beneficial is in no way overstating it if you've seen what it can do for patients of neurological disorders who have failed to have a decent lifestyle on antiseizure medications, whose side effects rival the seizures themselves in the discomfort they impart, or cancer patients who have found an alternative to opiate analgesics for chronic pain.

          But more broadly, industrial uses for hemp also make the plant net beneficial for our species.

          The countercultural associations that were created by outlawing the plant mask the genuine benefits it offers society.

          Think it, be it.

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          • ChrisC
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            @manufc10:

            9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

            I agree, it's inevitable.  I was simply pointing out that it isn't here just yet.

            As for marijuana's benefits, I think we're going to need to see a lot more clinical studies and rigorous research into the short and long term effects; something we haven't had much of yet, since research on illegal drugs is problematic for a host of reasons.

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            • Matty123M
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              @Chris:

              @manufc10:

              9 legal recreational marijuana states and 30 legal medical marijuana states, it's only a matter of time.  Calling it beneficial is in no way going a bit too far in my opinion…but let's hope this discussion doesn't turn political, if it already hasn't.  😎  😉

              I agree, it's inevitable.  I was simply pointing out that it isn't here just yet.

              As for marijuana's benefits, I think we're going to need to see a lot more clinical studies and rigorous research into the short and long term effects; something we haven't had much of yet, since research on illegal drugs is problematic for a host of reasons.

              Oops.

              EDIT: And for the record I no longer partake. I benefited greatly and have laid it down.

              Maybe so. Maybe not

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              • mclaincauseyM
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                Me neither. But if I ever have a disease that cannabis will help, I'll sign up for it. And to those who use recreationally, it's none of my or the government's business how you get your kicks.

                Think it, be it.

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                  Figured this thread needed this video.

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                  • GraemeG
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                    I was in LA in the summer, and in some parts of the city the smell of cannabis was pretty strong.

                    I caught the Greyhound from LA to Utah, and I remember the driver telling passengers that even though possession of marijuana was legal in some places, carrying it across state lines was a Federal offense, and counted as trafficking…

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                    • Matty123M
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                      I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                      Maybe so. Maybe not

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                      • gaseousclayG
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                        @Matty123:

                        I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                        Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                        • Matty123M
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                          @gaseousclay:

                          @Matty123:

                          I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                          Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                          Because the gas lobby and automotive lobby has paid politicians to kill any and all attempts to have such  train. It’s frustrating as all hell.

                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                          • manufc10M
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                            @gaseousclay:

                            @Matty123:

                            I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                            Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                            Elon Musk agrees with you.

                            https://www.pocket-lint.com/gadgets/news/132405-what-is-hyperloop-subsonic-hyperloop-train-technology-explained

                            It would use technology that "combines a magnetic levitation train and a low pressure transit tube."  He says the best way to picture it is to think of vacuum tube systems that are used in buildings to transport documents.  Similar to what banks use at the drive through teller lanes.  Supposedly it can go over 700 mph and he says we have all the technology needed today to make this possible.

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                              @gaseousclay:

                              @Matty123:

                              I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                              Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

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                              Because they would rather spend 8 Billion on a "Space Force"

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                              • neph93N
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                                There is a no politics rule guys. Some of these posts are veering close to breaking it.

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                                • Matty123M
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                                  ^ oh my bad. I apologize to all. No more about that from me.

                                  Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    @Graeme:

                                    I was in LA in the summer, and in some parts of the city the smell of cannabis was pretty strong.

                                    I caught the Greyhound from LA to Utah, and I remember the driver telling passengers that even though possession of marijuana was legal in some places, carrying it across state lines was a Federal offense, and counted as trafficking…

                                    When it comes to that, the TSA, though a federal administration, at worst will confiscate cannabis discovered at airport security here, informing a local Denver police officer, who is unlikely to write a ticket. I saw an article that said there were I think 5 citations out of millions of travelers (and who knows how many thousands riding dirty) over a year. They really don't care here. What they care about is actual crime and running against regulations (e.g. buying over limit, illegal grows, smoking while driving or in public spaces, etc).

                                    I wonder if there is reciprocity between states as far as where transporting medicine for patients or a stash for recreational users state to state is concerned. This would clearly not bear on federal law, but an interesting thought.

                                    CBD, a compound in cannabis that is not psychoactive, but is anti-inflammatory, anti-seizure, and probably anti-carcinogen, with no dangerous side effects, is still classified Schedule I by the DEA. People for whom this is the most effective therapy for their malady in some cases literally have to move to a state where they can use a medicine that works for them.

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • manufc10M
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                                      I've heard nothing but great things about CBD oil.  I have a few friends who are using the THC free CBD oil for several different ailments and they swear by it.

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        Two more anecdotes:

                                        Some friends of mine have a daughter with Rett syndrome, a rare, congenital, debilitating neurodegenerative disorder. They tried every antiseizure medication imaginable and no relief: indeed terrible side effects instead. They placed her on CBD oil therapy and her seizures went from 12 a day to about that many a month, and recovery times are a fraction of what they were before, with no side effects.

                                        My wife is far from being a smoker and she uses a hand cream for sore hands (maybe arthritis, not sure) that works very well: nothing else provides her relief.

                                        To Chris's point, the research is young, but it works for certain maladies. How it works isn't understood, but it seems that it needs other cannabinoids, including THC, to work properly. So even though CBD is non-psychoactive and therapeutic, the entire plant should be de-scheduled and explored in clinical research.

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • rioR
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                                          @gaseousclay:

                                          @Matty123:

                                          I love that you were on a greyhound bus. That’s Americana right there.

                                          Speaking of which, I’ve never understood why the US doesn’t have a transcontinental bullet train. We’re so behind when it comes to mass transit imo.

                                          Because we would stop using gas and buying so many cars, imagine all the people driving cross country that would take a train instead, is always about the money, they say our train tracks are not meant for a train like that , I believe is bs.

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                                          • mclaincauseyM
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                                            This may register as an unpop: though I enjoy driving under certain circumstances, the advent of self-driving cars and the elimination of driver incompetence and recklessness is an opportunity to change the world in dramatic ways:

                                            • networked cars would make vastly better usage of roadways and reduce traffic considerably. Think of the cars as forming trains as they coordinate, yet are free to split whenever is needed to get you to your destination

                                            -less morbidity and mortality from car accidents

                                            -urban landscapes and land use could be vastly improved with the elimination of parking garages

                                            • ability to work during commute and reduction of road rage

                                            • get as drunk as you like, even during transit

                                            I'd like it if cars became sort of like Car2Go and Über mixed with real-time coordination. So, you'd call up a driverless cars just like Über and they'd take you to your destination, networked with all the other cars to do so expeditiously. Ride sharing would remain a cost saving option. The cars would be electric and programmed to return to charging bays as needed.

                                            Think it, be it.

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