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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    IH-888-NT - 21/23oz indigo Selvedge DWC Jeans

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    • neph93N
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      I find myself in a similar boat. The 21oz is a more predictable denim so for me, I'll know exactly what size to order when the actual measurements come in. The UHR is trickier though, even though I own a pair. So I'd like to have the 21oz first to dial in my size.

      Having one pair of UHR I can say truthfully that it is one of, and probably the nicest, denim in the IH catalogue with the caveat that I have no experience with the 19L. STF denim makes me nervous in general but this stuff is so good that I can't see me passing up on a pair.

      I suspect the deadline is set because of the necessity of having the jeans ready, shipped from Japan, hemmed and shipped out again in time for the start of the DWC. I doubt there's a lot of margin for extensions but we'll see.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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      • Megatron1505M
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        @Dion:

        neph, the UHR BBs are great but I think this cut will be even better. You can always justify both because the 21ozers will have yellow arcs and the NTs navy ones (+ the DWC patch).

        The BB was a great cut, and the UHR Busters are
        amongst my favourite jeans….these are better in my opinion, more flattering, cleaner cut and more versatile.

        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        • M
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          Unfortunately ,  too big thigh 14.5" for me. I will sit on this release . Wish there is a slimmer tapper version for this one 777

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          • neph93N
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            @Dion:

            neph, the UHR BBs are great but I think this cut will be even better. You can always justify both because the 21ozers will have yellow arcs and the NTs navy ones (+ the DWC patch).

            Haha… the arcs may swing it. I'm 100% sure these will fit me better than my bb uhr's. It's going to be the 21oz for sure, and a high probability of either the 888NT or the 888UHR. I'm telling myself that worst case scenario, the NT/UHR's should be bought and can be saved for a rainy day as this is most likely "last chance to see" for this denim. The only question is whether or not I cave before 18.7 [emoji28]

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

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              UHR waist stretcher 2000

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              • GilesG
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                @mpukas:

                Will there be any special bobbin thread color for the hem? Thanks. mpp

                35.5 is the safe option….
                Not on the production jeans, but if you are having them hemmed, you can choose any color you want....

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • GilesG
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                  @mpukas:

                  I have a suspicion the pre-sale on these 888-NT is going to be extended,

                  Wrong…

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • M
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                    @Giles:

                    Wrong…

                    Yep not surprised I'm wrong about that…

                    Just curious - have you met the needed numbers for pre-sale? After the pre-sale ends, these will no longer be available for purchase?

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                    • GilesG
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                      There is no minimum for these because we are making them for the DWC, I'd look a complete arse if I said: "Erm Gav, it ain't happening after all, sorry.  Do you want to tell everyone who's pre-ordered that I've screwed them and the DWC, or shall you?…"

                      See here:

                      http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10378.msg503646#msg503646

                      That's how we will manage demand and ensure that everyone who has ordered a pair will get a pair even if they need to change size from their pre-order.

                      Once the pre-order is over that's it.

                      We may end up with the odd pair once production is completed and we juggle sizes and pre-orders, but there is zero guarantee.

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • joephotoJ
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                        So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                        Joe

                        Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                        • neph93N
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                          @joephoto:

                          So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                          Joe

                          Certainly not in my experience. I have this denim in the BB cut from the last DWC. From my experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, cuts in this denim come up slightly bigger than the same cut in other denim. Add the fact that they have larger dimensions while raw and you can end up with jeans that are too big. I've seen Gavin (Megatron1505) recommend going TTS with these, he has the sample pair. I'm about a W35 and I'll go for that or maybe even a W34.

                          “Some of those that work forces
                          Are the same that burn crosses”

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                          • joephotoJ
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                            @neph93:

                            @joephoto:

                            So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                            Joe

                            Certainly not in my experience. I have this denim in the BB cut from the last DWC. From my experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, cuts in this denim come up slightly bigger than the same cut in other denim. Add the fact that they have larger dimensions while raw and you can end up with jeans that are too big. I've seen Gavin (Megatron1505) recommend going TTS with these, he has the sample pair. I'm about a W35 and I'll go for that or maybe even a W34.

                            Thanks… the 38 in the 888 is very similar to the Pronto 10th Ann. Slim cut... and the 40 isn't that much different. But then again the sizes posted are post shrink. Thanks

                            Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                            • piranhaP
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                              The measurements given . . . does anyone think I can get the front rise further down below ~11" on a pair with a waist of 34" with this denim?
                              Please feel free to chime in.  I'd like to join the competition but high rises don't work for me.

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                              • GraemeG
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                                @piranha you don't need to wear the IH-888-NT for the contest. In fact, I'm tempted by the Burg & Schild 634 collaboration as I find the 21/23 oz denim to be a bit warm here in Australia.

                                Yes, I know that @louisbosco wore his in Perth, which is hotter than Melbourne, but I'm a wimp. 😃

                                Iron Heart Japan offers the 634SR, which is in the same fabric, but with a lower front rise, which should come to under 11". Their web shop lists both size 33 and 34, and @Giles should be able to get you a pair.

                                Incidentally, the Japan only paraffin coated 634s look really interesting…

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                                • Megatron1505M
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                                  @joephoto, definitely true to size on these to get the full effect of the cut.

                                  @piranha , I think you would struggle to get the rise to shrink below 11" on these.

                                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                  • Matty123M
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                                    Made the deposit on these today.  :o

                                    Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                    • Megatron1505M
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                                      Great choice, easily the most comfortable cut I have worn…..although I took the weekend off from them due to highs of 29 degrees. Switched out to the 14oz OD and feeling fresher for it.

                                      I'll be back in them tomorrow though, if you're gonna be a bear, be a grizzly  😎

                                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        @Matty123:

                                        Made the deposit on these today.  :o

                                        Yeeeesssss! Good work dude. I'm eyeing the calender nervously. My instinct is to go with the 21oz version in August but I get the feeling I won't be able to let these slip…

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                        • Matty123M
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                                          @neph93:

                                          @Matty123:

                                          Made the deposit on these today.  :o

                                          Yeeeesssss! Good work dude. I'm eyeing the calender nervously. My instinct is to go with the 21oz version in August but I get the feeling I won't be able to let these slip…

                                          Thanks bro…. I have admired too many photos of UHR to let these pass. I'm happy my ebay auctions sold so quickly. I didnt need to sell things to pay for these.... Having the money wasn't the issue, it was justifying a purchase without getting rid of some things that I no longer used. It felt good this way

                                          Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            That's the best way to go. And you did good. This denim is too good to miss out on.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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