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    IH-888-NT - 21/23oz indigo Selvedge DWC Jeans

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    • M
      mpukas
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      @Giles:

      Yes

      @Giles I'm tempted to use the free hemming service, but with raw denim there's always a little bit of a gamble getting them hemmed before shrinking. It seems there's approximately 2" +/- in shrink in length in the UHR, so if I want an inseam length of 33", I should get them hemmed to 35". Maybe 35.5", to err on the longer side, rather than shorter?

      Will there be any special bobbin thread color for the hem? Thanks. mpp

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      • M
        mpukas
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        @neph93:

        I haven't committed yet because I actually have a pair of UHR on the go and no 21oz in rotation. But getting both is horribly tempting…  ::)

        The dilemma for me was/is the pre-sale on the 888-NT goes thru July 18th, but the 888S won't be released for another few weeks. I'm really interested in this cut, as well as the denim given how great so many folks say it is. But I won't know if the cut is to my liking until I actually try them on. If the cut and denim are really as good as I'm expecting, this could be very close to grail jeans for me. Granted, it seems there will be an 888-UHR released at the same time the 888-NT are ready, so I could have waited for the 888S and then the get the 888-UHR if they are to my liking…. but I didn't  :o

        I have a suspicion the pre-sale on these 888-NT is going to be extended, but I could be wrong as I often am about such things as suspicions.

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        • DionD
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          neph, the UHR BBs are great but I think this cut will be even better. You can always justify both because the 21ozers will have yellow arcs and the NTs navy ones (+ the DWC patch).

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          • Matty123M
            Matty123
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            I have a question forAny one who has experience with this denim. Has anyone found that the waist will stretch past the tagged size? I found that the flagship stretched past the tag size a bit. I need every bit of the 40 of a size 40 lol

            Maybe so. Maybe not

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Yes it will, but first it will shrink to the point that you will wish you had never been born….then within 48 hours of hip crushing agony they will relent and be super comfortable. That's my experience anyway.

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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              • Matty123M
                Matty123
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                @Megatron1505:

                Yes it will, but first it will shrink to the point that you will wish you had never been born….then within 48 hours of hip crushing agony they will relent and be super comfortable. That's my experience anyway.

                That's what I'm talking about! No pain no gain.

                Maybe so. Maybe not

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                • neph93N
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                  I find myself in a similar boat. The 21oz is a more predictable denim so for me, I'll know exactly what size to order when the actual measurements come in. The UHR is trickier though, even though I own a pair. So I'd like to have the 21oz first to dial in my size.

                  Having one pair of UHR I can say truthfully that it is one of, and probably the nicest, denim in the IH catalogue with the caveat that I have no experience with the 19L. STF denim makes me nervous in general but this stuff is so good that I can't see me passing up on a pair.

                  I suspect the deadline is set because of the necessity of having the jeans ready, shipped from Japan, hemmed and shipped out again in time for the start of the DWC. I doubt there's a lot of margin for extensions but we'll see.

                  “Some of those that work forces
                  Are the same that burn crosses”

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    @Dion:

                    neph, the UHR BBs are great but I think this cut will be even better. You can always justify both because the 21ozers will have yellow arcs and the NTs navy ones (+ the DWC patch).

                    The BB was a great cut, and the UHR Busters are
                    amongst my favourite jeans….these are better in my opinion, more flattering, cleaner cut and more versatile.

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • M
                      Mustafa911
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                      Unfortunately ,  too big thigh 14.5" for me. I will sit on this release . Wish there is a slimmer tapper version for this one 777

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                      • neph93N
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                        @Dion:

                        neph, the UHR BBs are great but I think this cut will be even better. You can always justify both because the 21ozers will have yellow arcs and the NTs navy ones (+ the DWC patch).

                        Haha… the arcs may swing it. I'm 100% sure these will fit me better than my bb uhr's. It's going to be the 21oz for sure, and a high probability of either the 888NT or the 888UHR. I'm telling myself that worst case scenario, the NT/UHR's should be bought and can be saved for a rainy day as this is most likely "last chance to see" for this denim. The only question is whether or not I cave before 18.7 [emoji28]

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
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                        • trail and arrowT
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                          UHR waist stretcher 2000

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            @mpukas:

                            Will there be any special bobbin thread color for the hem? Thanks. mpp

                            35.5 is the safe option….
                            Not on the production jeans, but if you are having them hemmed, you can choose any color you want....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
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                              @mpukas:

                              I have a suspicion the pre-sale on these 888-NT is going to be extended,

                              Wrong…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                mpukas
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                                @Giles:

                                Wrong…

                                Yep not surprised I'm wrong about that…

                                Just curious - have you met the needed numbers for pre-sale? After the pre-sale ends, these will no longer be available for purchase?

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                                • GilesG
                                  Giles
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                                  There is no minimum for these because we are making them for the DWC, I'd look a complete arse if I said: "Erm Gav, it ain't happening after all, sorry.  Do you want to tell everyone who's pre-ordered that I've screwed them and the DWC, or shall you?…"

                                  See here:

                                  http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=10378.msg503646#msg503646

                                  That's how we will manage demand and ensure that everyone who has ordered a pair will get a pair even if they need to change size from their pre-order.

                                  Once the pre-order is over that's it.

                                  We may end up with the odd pair once production is completed and we juggle sizes and pre-orders, but there is zero guarantee.

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  • joephotoJ
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                                    So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                                    Joe

                                    Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      @joephoto:

                                      So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                                      Joe

                                      Certainly not in my experience. I have this denim in the BB cut from the last DWC. From my experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, cuts in this denim come up slightly bigger than the same cut in other denim. Add the fact that they have larger dimensions while raw and you can end up with jeans that are too big. I've seen Gavin (Megatron1505) recommend going TTS with these, he has the sample pair. I'm about a W35 and I'll go for that or maybe even a W34.

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
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                                      • joephotoJ
                                        joephoto
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                                        @neph93:

                                        @joephoto:

                                        So with this style of denim… is this one you'd size up in with the shrinkage? Just curious what people have done in the past with 21/23oz.

                                        Joe

                                        Certainly not in my experience. I have this denim in the BB cut from the last DWC. From my experience, and from what I've read of other's experience, cuts in this denim come up slightly bigger than the same cut in other denim. Add the fact that they have larger dimensions while raw and you can end up with jeans that are too big. I've seen Gavin (Megatron1505) recommend going TTS with these, he has the sample pair. I'm about a W35 and I'll go for that or maybe even a W34.

                                        Thanks… the 38 in the 888 is very similar to the Pronto 10th Ann. Slim cut... and the 40 isn't that much different. But then again the sizes posted are post shrink. Thanks

                                        Ohhhhhh that constitutional stitching!

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                                        • piranhaP
                                          piranha
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                                          The measurements given . . . does anyone think I can get the front rise further down below ~11" on a pair with a waist of 34" with this denim?
                                          Please feel free to chime in.  I'd like to join the competition but high rises don't work for me.

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                                          • GraemeG
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                                            @piranha you don't need to wear the IH-888-NT for the contest. In fact, I'm tempted by the Burg & Schild 634 collaboration as I find the 21/23 oz denim to be a bit warm here in Australia.

                                            Yes, I know that @louisbosco wore his in Perth, which is hotter than Melbourne, but I'm a wimp. 😃

                                            Iron Heart Japan offers the 634SR, which is in the same fabric, but with a lower front rise, which should come to under 11". Their web shop lists both size 33 and 34, and @Giles should be able to get you a pair.

                                            Incidentally, the Japan only paraffin coated 634s look really interesting…

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