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IH-777S-21 - Super-Slim Tapered 21oz Indigo Selvedge Jean - VERSION 1

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    Giles
    IHUK Crew
    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

    Thanks

    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      @gazeboarder:

      Any reason for the higher price on these compared to the other 21oz models?  Is this just a simple case of historical prices not being changed on the established models?

      Will stand alone shops be getting these?

      Will these be sold in Japan?

      1)  Costs increasing in Japan, small initial run etc. etc. etc
      2)  A few
      3)  No

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        Oleg
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 1 Jul 2012

        @jay:

        What @ChuckDenim and @Peter and @Finn666 said.

        Yep@ChuckDenim:

        I´m a bit disapointed by the measurements. There seems to be no major difference to a 666s post soak.
        The pre production sizing table was very promising, cause I was looking forward to a real mid rise tapered jeans.
        That´s for me size 33: FR ~10,5 / BR ~14,5 / UT 12,5 / K 8,5 / LO 7,5.
        I think,there are enough slim high rise jeans in the IH production line, so this was the chance to make something different.

        Those would be perfect measurements for me too.And I totaly agree with everything what you said.

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @Zentner:

          @gazeboarder

          I'm goona guess ththe higher price has to do with a few of the design detritus like the selvedge fly and sewn in belt loops.

          @Giles can correct me if I'm wrong but sewn in belt loops and selvedge fly are more or less standard on most IH gear (and I for one love that sh!t). Things are just costing (even) more to make in Japan at the mo.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
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            neph93
            見習いボス
            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

            For my part, I'd be all over these if I didn't already have 301S and 555-1 in the same denim. As it is they will be my next IH jean when the double indigo comes. And if an SBG version ever gets made, then come to momma….

            “Some of those that work forces
            Are the same that burn crosses”

            • Virginia Woolf
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              neph93
              見習いボス
              Joined: 18 Aug 2014

              @neph93:

              For my part, I'd be all over these if I didn't already have 301S and 555-1 in the same denim. As it is they will be my next IH jean when the double indigo comes. And if an SBG version ever gets made, then come to momma….

              I've just seen the pictures in the shop. Bloody excellent looking jeans. My last post x2.

              “Some of those that work forces
              Are the same that burn crosses”

              • Virginia Woolf
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                riffblaster general
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 23 Mar 2010

                These look great

                PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                  Zentner
                  Joined: 6 Oct 2012

                  @neph93:

                  @Zentner:

                  @gazeboarder

                  I'm goona guess ththe higher price has to do with a few of the design detritus like the selvedge fly and sewn in belt loops.

                  @Giles can correct me if I'm wrong but sewn in belt loops and selvedge fly are more or less standard on most IH gear (and I for one love that sh!t). Things are just costing (even) more to make in Japan at the mo.

                  I was just comparing to the IH-634S looking at the pictures they don't look like sewn in belt loops or selvedge fly and the price is $350, but the samaller production run definitely makes sense.

                  'The monument is the blood in the sand, blood in the oil, blood on your hands. When hell comes home, there's hell to pay. This is the price of oil.'- C.C.

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                    neph93
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                    I understand. Almost everything has the sewn in belt loops. It's an engineering feature. The 301's and the 555's definitly have selvedge fly and they're cheaper than these. I don't know about the 634's personally.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

                    • Virginia Woolf
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                      Copenhagen
                      Raw and Unwashed
                      Joined: 12 Apr 2011

                      Giles, I'm not able to see a whole lotta difference between these and the 555, fit wise and in the denim. Could you explain?

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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

                        They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          Jordonf9
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 11 Feb 2015

                          If that size 38 ended with a 8" hem, maybe another 1/2" more on thigh… would be perfect fit for regular guys with slightly beefier thighs 🙂

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                            neph93
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @Giles:

                            There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

                            They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

                            Would you mind expanding on that… what is envisioned for these and how does the first iteration differ from the vision?

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              I spent yesterday checking with H and Tom what we could/would do.  This is what we have agreed

                              Front and rear rises: 1.5 - 2cm smaller
                              Thigh increased by 1cm
                              Cuff 0.5cm smaller

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                neph93
                                見習いボス
                                Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                Sounds like a good plan. I think a lot of people will be happy with that, especially the thigh measurements. I appreciate the transparency in the process, it's great for us to get that insight in what you guys are trying to achieve.

                                “Some of those that work forces
                                Are the same that burn crosses”

                                • Virginia Woolf
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                                  ruben
                                  Joined: 19 Jun 2013

                                  Those tweaks sound like what I would have in mind to make these pretty much spot on for me

                                  Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                                    Finn666
                                    Joined: 20 Jan 2011

                                    @Giles:

                                    I spent yesterday checking with H and Tom what we could/would do.  This is what we have agreed

                                    Front and rear rises: 1.5 - 2cm smaller
                                    Thigh increased by 1cm
                                    Cuff 0.5cm smaller

                                    dope…exactly what i'm after atm.
                                    so go on people, buy this run, so that the next can be initiated 😃 😉

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                                      Jordonf9
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 11 Feb 2015

                                      I think the FR and BR are pretty good where they are now. This will always be a personal thing though. I like my FR about 11" and Rear 16-17", but that is me.

                                      The thigh up a CM is a great idea, as well as the hem.

                                      Most people have pretty close ankle diameter. I never got the huge differences in hem sizing sometimes.

                                      Maybe a like 1cm smaller in hem for them 36,38 and 40 sizes 😛  I will definitely have to grab one of these in the future then….damn you Giles 😛

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                                        Ragehaver
                                        Joined: 26 Feb 2013

                                        I received my 777's today and can't be happier with the top block and thighs. I've struggled with sz 38 555's (good leg, huge top block, too high rise for my gut) and sz 36 666's (huge legs, tiny top block, good rise). These 777's are the closest I've gotten to perfect, but I agree that the hem opening could be slightly smaller.

                                        As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/38, 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 38 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

                                        Tearing that metallic blue bag makes me so damn happy…

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                                          urbanwoodsman
                                          Banned
                                          Joined: 16 Aug 2011

                                          @Ragehaver:

                                          As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/ 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 36 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

                                          The bane of my existence.

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