IH-777S-21 - Super-Slim Tapered 21oz Indigo Selvedge Jean - VERSION 1

[Giles]

This jean tapers more than anything else we do, apart from the 1955S, which is a completely different beast.

[xtcclassic]

What are the chances of this cut becoming available in the 25oz denim without the rise getting any higher? If I could get a pair with the size 34 measurements of this cut in 25oz denim I would happily prostitute myself to pay for them.

[gazeboarder]

Any reason for the higher price on these compared to the other 21oz models?  Is this just a simple case of historical prices not being changed on the established models?

Will stand alone shops be getting these?

Will these be sold in Japan?

[Zentner]

@gazeboarder

I'm goona guess ththe higher price has to do with a few of the design detritus like the selvedge fly and sewn in belt loops.

[4c]

@Giles
"A modern super-slim cut with more taper from the knee to the uiff cuff than most of our jeans"

http://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-777s-21.html

[Giles]

Thanks

[Giles]

@gazeboarder:

Any reason for the higher price on these compared to the other 21oz models?  Is this just a simple case of historical prices not being changed on the established models?

Will stand alone shops be getting these?

Will these be sold in Japan?

1)  Costs increasing in Japan, small initial run etc. etc. etc
2)  A few
3)  No

[Oleg]

@jay:

What @ChuckDenim and @Peter and @Finn666 said.

Yep@ChuckDenim:

I´m a bit disapointed by the measurements. There seems to be no major difference to a 666s post soak.
The pre production sizing table was very promising, cause I was looking forward to a real mid rise tapered jeans.
That´s for me size 33: FR ~10,5 / BR ~14,5 / UT 12,5 / K 8,5 / LO 7,5.
I think,there are enough slim high rise jeans in the IH production line, so this was the chance to make something different.

Those would be perfect measurements for me too.And I totaly agree with everything what you said.

[neph93]

@Zentner:

@gazeboarder

I'm goona guess ththe higher price has to do with a few of the design detritus like the selvedge fly and sewn in belt loops.

@Giles can correct me if I'm wrong but sewn in belt loops and selvedge fly are more or less standard on most IH gear (and I for one love that sh!t). Things are just costing (even) more to make in Japan at the mo.

[neph93]

For my part, I'd be all over these if I didn't already have 301S and 555-1 in the same denim. As it is they will be my next IH jean when the double indigo comes. And if an SBG version ever gets made, then come to momma….

[neph93]

@neph93:

For my part, I'd be all over these if I didn't already have 301S and 555-1 in the same denim. As it is they will be my next IH jean when the double indigo comes. And if an SBG version ever gets made, then come to momma….

I've just seen the pictures in the shop. Bloody excellent looking jeans. My last post x2.

[riffblaster general]

These look great

[Zentner]

@neph93:

@Zentner:

@gazeboarder

I'm goona guess ththe higher price has to do with a few of the design detritus like the selvedge fly and sewn in belt loops.

@Giles can correct me if I'm wrong but sewn in belt loops and selvedge fly are more or less standard on most IH gear (and I for one love that sh!t). Things are just costing (even) more to make in Japan at the mo.

I was just comparing to the IH-634S looking at the pictures they don't look like sewn in belt loops or selvedge fly and the price is $350, but the samaller production run definitely makes sense.

[neph93]

I understand. Almost everything has the sewn in belt loops. It's an engineering feature. The 301's and the 555's definitly have selvedge fly and they're cheaper than these. I don't know about the 634's personally.

[Copenhagen]

Giles, I'm not able to see a whole lotta difference between these and the 555, fit wise and in the denim. Could you explain?

[Giles]

There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

[Jordonf9]

If that size 38 ended with a 8" hem, maybe another 1/2" more on thigh… would be perfect fit for regular guys with slightly beefier thighs

[neph93]

@Giles:

There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

Would you mind expanding on that… what is envisioned for these and how does the first iteration differ from the vision?

[Giles]

I spent yesterday checking with H and Tom what we could/would do.  This is what we have agreed

Front and rear rises: 1.5 - 2cm smaller
Thigh increased by 1cm
Cuff 0.5cm smaller

[neph93]

Sounds like a good plan. I think a lot of people will be happy with that, especially the thigh measurements. I appreciate the transparency in the process, it's great for us to get that insight in what you guys are trying to achieve.