IH-777S-21 - Super-Slim Tapered 21oz Indigo Selvedge Jean - VERSION 1

[neph93]

I understand. Almost everything has the sewn in belt loops. It's an engineering feature. The 301's and the 555's definitly have selvedge fly and they're cheaper than these. I don't know about the 634's personally.

[Copenhagen]

Giles, I'm not able to see a whole lotta difference between these and the 555, fit wise and in the denim. Could you explain?

[Giles]

There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

[Jordonf9]

If that size 38 ended with a 8" hem, maybe another 1/2" more on thigh… would be perfect fit for regular guys with slightly beefier thighs

[neph93]

@Giles:

There isn't.  Just a more tapered knee to cuff.

They did not turn out exactly as planned.  So we'll get that sorted for the next run.

Would you mind expanding on that… what is envisioned for these and how does the first iteration differ from the vision?

[Giles]

I spent yesterday checking with H and Tom what we could/would do.  This is what we have agreed

Front and rear rises: 1.5 - 2cm smaller
Thigh increased by 1cm
Cuff 0.5cm smaller

[neph93]

Sounds like a good plan. I think a lot of people will be happy with that, especially the thigh measurements. I appreciate the transparency in the process, it's great for us to get that insight in what you guys are trying to achieve.

[ruben]

Those tweaks sound like what I would have in mind to make these pretty much spot on for me

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[Finn666]

@Giles:

I spent yesterday checking with H and Tom what we could/would do.  This is what we have agreed

Front and rear rises: 1.5 - 2cm smaller
Thigh increased by 1cm
Cuff 0.5cm smaller

dope…exactly what i'm after atm.
so go on people, buy this run, so that the next can be initiated

[Jordonf9]

I think the FR and BR are pretty good where they are now. This will always be a personal thing though. I like my FR about 11" and Rear 16-17", but that is me.

The thigh up a CM is a great idea, as well as the hem.

Most people have pretty close ankle diameter. I never got the huge differences in hem sizing sometimes.

Maybe a like 1cm smaller in hem for them 36,38 and 40 sizes   I will definitely have to grab one of these in the future then….damn you Giles

[Ragehaver]

I received my 777's today and can't be happier with the top block and thighs. I've struggled with sz 38 555's (good leg, huge top block, too high rise for my gut) and sz 36 666's (huge legs, tiny top block, good rise). These 777's are the closest I've gotten to perfect, but I agree that the hem opening could be slightly smaller.

As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/38, 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 38 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

Tearing that metallic blue bag makes me so damn happy…

[urbanwoodsman]

@Ragehaver:

As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/ 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 36 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

The bane of my existence.

[Ragehaver]

@urbanwoodsman:

@Ragehaver:

As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/ 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 36 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

The bane of my existence.

Good news: Gustin size 36~38 slim probably fit you.

Bad news: they're really shitty.

I haven't found anything else.

[urbanwoodsman]

@Ragehaver:

@urbanwoodsman:

@Ragehaver:

As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/ 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 36 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

The bane of my existence.

Good news: Gustin size 36~38 slim probably fit you.

Bad news: they're really shitty.

I haven't found anything else.

Yeah, I won't ever be buying a pair of Gustins.

My SEXIH22-301S and ONI-527ZR are my favorite fits right now.

[Anesthetist]

@urbanwoodsman:

@Ragehaver:

@urbanwoodsman:

@Ragehaver:

As a bigger guy with a short inseam (sz 36/ 30" inseam), it's really hard to find pair of pants that fit. Most size 36 pants are made for a longer inseam, so after I hem them they end up with an absolutely enormous hem opening.

The bane of my existence.

Good news: Gustin size 36~38 slim probably fit you.

Bad news: they're really shitty.

I haven't found anything else.

Yeah, I won't ever be buying a pair of Gustins.

My SEXIH22-301S and ONI-527ZR are my favorite fits right now.

I wish that my old 301 had fit like yours! Great taper and just slim enough. The 633 has been my best bet so far, but this cut might work in the next iteration.

[gazeboarder]

Interesting feedback on the size 36 IH777.  I have the 555-01's and the 555-03's both in a size 36.  I'm 6'3" so the long length works for me.  Looking at the specs on the 777's they look so close in numbers to the 555-01's I wonder if I would even notice a difference.  Do you think the 0.5 in the rear rise and 0.4 in the knee would make a big difference?

[Copenhagen]

Giles, what size do you wear in these?

[spitfiredealer]

No one got any fit pics

[Giles]

@Copenhagen:

Giles, what size do you wear in these?

I don't.  Cant' get them on, that is why Sam is the model.

[xtcclassic]

Hmmm… @Giles you wear the same size I do (33) and the measurements on the size 34 in these look perfect for me. What part of the jeans are you having problems with? Just curious if I'm missing something that the measurements aren't reflecting.