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    • mclaincauseyM
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      It's not unusual for a retailer to have a 50% gross margin. IH, SE, and their suppliers all have make money on the deal. That's just business; I can't tell if they are making "unfair" margins or not, but again, 50% is not considered unusual and it's their right to charge what they think their product is worth, and our right to walk away if that's too high. To know if you were being gouged (I define that as a retailer gross margin over 50%) you'd have to have full view of the value network supplying the product, or at least knowledge of the cost of goods sold to the retailer. Or the price could just be so totally out of whack that you could safely assume a gouge.

      So to me the final jacket is too expensive, but not necessarily overpriced.

      Think it, be it.

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      • simoncS
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        How long is this 101J in the back?

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        • Z
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          @Giles:

          Lee Stormrider is one of THE classic denim jackets…..

          This.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Want one yet? 🙂

            Think it, be it.

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            • tatmantallT
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              Yep

              "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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              • Finn666F
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                that corduroy collar 😘

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                • Max PowerM
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                  Sorry, as much as I love the stormrider - i dislike the corduroy collar. I just feels it disrupts the clean optic. Never was a fan of those collars.

                  @elclintor:

                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                  • RocknRollR
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                    @tatmantall:

                    It may be because for the last 12 years I've supported myself by my art (not the computer variety but art thats still done in the old fashioned done-by-hand style) and understand just how much work is put into things that people seldom realize.  Just an observation.

                    Good point. A mate of mine is a tattooist as well, and sometimes he gets people bitching about it costing $X per hour. What they don't realise is that he spends his evenings and weekends practicing, creating new designs, refining techniques, etc. He doesn't get paid a cent for that time.

                    Same with clothes - I can only imagine all the 'behind the scenes' stuff that gets into making a pair of jeans, jacket, or whatever. Considering all this, as discussed various times before, IH doesn't have a particularly large profit margin on most items.

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                    • Max PowerM
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                      It's simple economics: nobody forces you to buy in case you rate the subjective value of an item lower than it's retail price. And regarding tattoos: I wonder how often people think: "Hey, it looks kinda shitty, but at least I saved me 50 bucks."

                      @elclintor:

                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                      • GilesG
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                        @simonc:

                        How long is this 101J in the back?

                        Why? It's a sample, so will likely change.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                        • MastersOfDeathM
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                          Looking forward to this 101J - love the front yoke on Lee riders, I've found it very flattering. Stormrider/lined would be amazing.
                          Can I mention the 'P' word?…. 😞 😉

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                          • GilesG
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                            This jacket will stay effectively as is. IF it sells well, then I may consider doing a Storm Rider.  It really depends upon the take up from retailers, jackets sell super slow compared to jeans and shirts.  Making them more specialist (lined for eg) and thus more expensive throttles back demand further.  Would I buy a IH Storm Rider if it was issued? hell yeah, but that does not mean enough others will.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • GilesG
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                              Really love some of the details on the 101…..

                              Beautifully taped pocket reverse....

                              Lovely non rectangular shapes to the cinch strap and the cuff…

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • madmondayM
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                                very nice, will keep a look out as i don't have enough denim outerwear

                                head high, middle finger higher

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  The original had plastic cinch buttons. They had a rationale for that, but I can't recall what it was.

                                  This is one reason I love iron heart, not a slavish repro. I like these type III style metal cinch buttons. Though, what I would like even more would be branded copper buttons like I've seen on a couple of IH items. This piece would resemble the original (I.e, be more "repro" and contradicting the point I made above, but still being rad) more:

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Great idea.  How about these…...

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      @simonc:

                                      How long is this 101J in the back?

                                      But as I m in the process of altering the dimensions, what are peoples recommendations?

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        Yes G daddy like!

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • ohighyoO
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                                          This is the shit that makes me love ironheart. What other company has a forum where customers can chime in on future shit!! next level shit you have created here Giles, or a monster I'm not really sure!!

                                          Slipping gradually into senility

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                                          • S
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                                            ^Why pick one? Next level monster shit. Hang on, that's not come out right, oh well 🙂

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