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    JAPAN TRIP November 2011

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    • michaeljcrM
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      @Chris:

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      Roger from VMC and I fell in love with these…...

      Glace Goat from Whites.....

      Those are nice, but I'd be worried about durability.  Goat isn't exactly noted for being a tough leather.  Should be really comfortable, though, since goat is thin and soft.  Any idea what the lining is?

      No idea about the footwear applications of goat, but I thought goatskin was considered very tough for leather jackets? Relatively lightweight, tough and lasts well. It's also supposed to be pretty waterproof. It was used on some WW2 A2 jackets, and as far as I'm aware is what the USAF and USN use for their current issue leather jackets. not that that means a lot for footwear though.

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        I think they are actually Water Buffalo.

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        • madmondayM
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          we need more photos.

          head high, middle finger higher

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          • J-IVJ
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            @Giles:

            Does anyone know what shirt she's wearing?
            The one not holding the menu.

            I'm as ugly as you

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            • madmondayM
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              i think it's a flathead or strike gold shirt from last fall winter.

              leaning towards flathead

              head high, middle finger higher

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              • kiyaK
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                That's a Flat Head shirt from F/W 2010.

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                • J-IVJ
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                  Thanks for the quick response guys!

                  I'm as ugly as you

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                  • ChrisC
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                    @michaeljcr:

                    No idea about the footwear applications of goat, but I thought goatskin was considered very tough for leather jackets? Relatively lightweight, tough and lasts well. It's also supposed to be pretty waterproof. It was used on some WW2 A2 jackets, and as far as I'm aware is what the USAF and USN use for their current issue leather jackets. not that that means a lot for footwear though.

                    I could be wrong about that; my knowledge comes primarily from the western/cowboy boot world, where goat is considered a poor choice for vamp leather.  It gets used a lot in tops, since it's light, takes dye really well and is less expensive than something like calfskin.  I know bookbinders use goat a lot, and I didn't know about the use in jackets.  Perhaps it's tougher than I realized.

                    Perhaps it doesn't get used as often in footwear because it's lightweight- shoes and boots take a lot of abuse, even when they're well maintained.  As such, they tend to be made of heavier leather.  I don't know, that's speculation on my part.  Guess we need an expert, Brett Viberg, for instance, to provide a quality opinion/answer.

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                    • michaeljcrM
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                      Hi Chris - yes indeed, it'd be interesting to know. Like I said, I've no idea, only really read about the jacket applications. Nice looking boots though! I'd be willing to test drive them and find out… 😃

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                      • injunjackI
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                        well, even Langlitz uses goat in their jackets…...for motorcycling.

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                          The random umbrellas populating the streets of Kobe make me really want to go back to Japan.

                          The beer just seems to taste better there, too.

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                          • MastersOfDeathM
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                            @that_was_easy:

                            The beer just seems to taste better there, too.

                            probably to do with the price.  I don't think I've ever drunk a pint so slow in my life 😛 😉

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                            • kiyaK
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                              @that_was_easy:

                              The beer just seems to taste better there, too.

                              This is definitely very far from the truth unless you like your beer near flavorless and super fizzy.

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                                @kiya:

                                @that_was_easy:

                                The beer just seems to taste better there, too.

                                This is definitely very far from the truth unless you like your beer near flavorless and super fizzy.

                                No kidding! Japanese beer is made to not overpower whatever you're eating but its not very drinkable on its own… Fortunately jibiru is starting to show up at conbinins lately.

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                                • Megatron1505M
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                                  Can't agree with that, I love Kirin and Asahi Black beer. Kirin (ichi ban at least) reminds me a lot of Corona, which is another favourite of mine.

                                  Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    Hitachino Nest brews quality beer.  Not super fizzy or near flavorless.  Much smaller production than the major Japanese brewers, but that's always the case with good beer.  After all, if you judged American beer based on Budweiser, Coors and Miller Light, you'd probably consider it not worth drinking, either.  But if you hunt down some Dogfish Head, Ommegang or Shiner, you'll have a very different perspective.

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      Waiting outside the restaurant for seats.  Often a problem when there is a large group of you and there is a general inability to plan…....

                                      And I chose this, it was a like a Lasagne but utilising noodles instead of pasta sand the ground beef was in the form of 3 meatballs.  And it was delicious…

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        Hitachino Nest wasn't widely available until recently, fortunately it is one of the jibiru that are starting to show up in convenience stores along with Yona Yona (better on tap but passable in a can), Coedo, Ginga Kogen and Otaru Beer up north.

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                                          And if you're really in a bind Toris Highball in a can is pretty good.

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                                          • Megatron1505M
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                                            I suppose absence and perspective play a part too, I know plenty of friends from over seas who love Carling (UK beer), personally I wouldn't wash a dog in it.

                                            Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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