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Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?

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    schraiber
    Raw and Unwashed
    Joined: 9 Sept 2022

    I picked up a pair of 888 ducks on ebay a couple months ago that were supposedly from a previous production run (maybe 2022?). I'm not that worried about them being legit, as they have most things seeming legit, and honestly I wouldn't even have a question, except that the pocket bags are black instead of white. Figured maybe I could post here and see if the black pocket bags are expected from a previous run, perhaps?

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      T4920
      見習いボス
      Joined: 27 Apr 2022

      I semi-drunkenly took my friend down the Iron Heart rabbit hole the other night after he complimented a few pieces I was wearing and said I was always 'so well put together'.

      Was explaining the lifetime repairs policy, and he asked 'but how will they know if it's fake or not?' Fair question, but I just smirked and said 'Oh, they'll know!'

      “𝑁𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟 𝑙𝑒𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑓𝑢𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑒 𝑑𝑖𝑠𝑡𝑢𝑟𝑏 𝑦𝑜𝑢. 𝑌𝑜𝑢 𝑤𝑖𝑙𝑙 𝑚𝑒𝑒𝑡 𝑖𝑡, 𝑖𝑓 𝑦𝑜𝑢 ℎ𝑎𝑣𝑒 𝑡𝑜, 𝑤𝑖𝑡ℎ 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑠𝑎𝑚𝑒 𝑤𝑒𝑎𝑝𝑜𝑛𝑠 𝑜𝑓 𝑟𝑒𝑎𝑠𝑜𝑛 𝑤ℎ𝑖𝑐ℎ 𝑡𝑜𝑑𝑎𝑦 𝑎𝑟𝑚 𝑦𝑜𝑢 𝑎𝑔𝑎𝑖𝑛𝑠𝑡 𝑡ℎ𝑒 𝑝𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑒𝑛𝑡.”

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        tody
        啓蒙家
        @schraiber
        Joined: 24 Feb 2021

        @schraiber Post a picture and someone will be able to tell you!

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          Matt
          見習いボス
          @schraiber
          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

          @schraiber are you sure theyre 888? My 777 has black pockets, stitching and W.

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            schraiber
            Raw and Unwashed
            Joined: 9 Sept 2022

            Here's a bunch of pics. I'm not feeling too worried as this website seems to show an interior shot of some 888D with black pocket bags

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              Aetas
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              @schraiber
              Joined: 19 Jun 2013

              @schraiber

              IH-888D
              Last picture on IH-UK shows also a glimpse of the black pockets.

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                schraiber
                Raw and Unwashed
                @Aetas
                Joined: 9 Sept 2022

                @Aetas Good find! That eases my mind (not that it needed that much ease, to be honest)

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                  NickD
                  Raw and Unwashed
                  Joined: 17 Nov 2024

                  I'm pretty sure I've just had a fake pair of 634 delivered from an eBay purchase. Opinions welcome.

                  In addition to what's in the pics there are no hidden rivets on the back pockets either. EBay pics didn't show the pocket bags or label, otherwise I think I would have twigged prior to purchase. The denim is pretty thick for what it's worth.

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                    Oaktavia
                    見習いボス
                    @NickD
                    Joined: 12 Jun 2019

                    @NickD might just be the non-selvedge 21oz which has a lighter weft like in the photos. Can you post a few more of the back pockets, maybe the of the entire pair?

                    IG: electricindigowizard

                    "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                    WTB: IHJ-72- XL/XXL

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                      Alex
                      IHUK Crew
                      @NickD
                      Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                      @NickD said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                      I'm pretty sure I've just had a fake pair of 634 delivered from an eBay purchase. Opinions welcome.

                      From the photos you have posted, I would say these look like the IH-634

                      https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/4911/ih-634-non-selvedge-21oz-indigo-straight-cut-jean

                      That model did have the blue screen printed IRON HEART on the pocket bag, for eg.

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                        NickD
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 17 Nov 2024

                        @Oaktavia said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                        @NickD might just be the non-selvedge 21oz which has a lighter weft like in the photos. Can you post a few more of the back pockets, maybe the of the entire pair?

                        Edit: although I haven't seen a lot number read only 634 without an S or a Z next to it at least. I don't know everything though.

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                          NickD
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          @Alex
                          Joined: 17 Nov 2024

                          @Alex said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                          @NickD said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                          I'm pretty sure I've just had a fake pair of 634 delivered from an eBay purchase. Opinions welcome.

                          From the photos you have posted, I would say these look like the IH-634

                          https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/4911/ih-634-non-selvedge-21oz-indigo-straight-cut-jean

                          That model did have the blue screen printed IRON HEART on the pocket bag, for eg.

                          That puts my mind at ease somewhat, thank you. Makes sense why they don't have zipper in that case. I didn't even know they existed, having come to the brand fairly recently.

                          Weird that this pair have hung around for 10 years or so. They were listed as used but have clearly never been worn.

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                          • goosehdG
                            goosehd
                            Mod Squad
                            @NickD
                            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                            @NickD said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                            Weird that this pair have hung around for 10 years or so. They were listed as used but have clearly never been worn.

                            Not that odd as we have some members who are collectors and have more denim in storage than some people have in their entire wardrobes.

                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                            • popvultureP
                              popvulture
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                              @NickD
                              Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                              @NickD as far as I know, the non-selvedge versions are available as options in Japan, but not IHUK. Always funny to see them come up in various places, but they’re legit.

                              WTB
                              IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                              Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                Matt
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                                Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                Pretty cool to have something so different. I used to be pretty snobby about everything being selvedge but I don’t really care anymore.

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                                • goosehdG
                                  goosehd
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                                  Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                  ...also cool to see it has buttons instead of the zipper in later versions. I am a little picky when it comes to button fly versus zipper.

                                  "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  • Tago MagoT
                                    Tago Mago
                                    Mod Squad
                                    @Matt
                                    Joined: 16 Jan 2021

                                    @Matt easy to say when you have a lifetime supply of selvedge denim in your closet and are able to find even more. Almost like a dark wizard 🤔

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                                      NickD
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 17 Nov 2024

                                      Thanks all for the input, it's appreciated. Now to start breaking them in...

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                                      • ROmanR
                                        ROman
                                        Haraki san Prodigy
                                        @goosehd
                                        Joined: 5 Jan 2015

                                        @goosehd said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                                        @NickD said in Bitch Please… FAKE Iron Heart?:

                                        Weird that this pair have hung around for 10 years or so. They were listed as used but have clearly never been worn.

                                        Not that odd as we have some members who are collectors and have more denim in storage than some people have in their entire wardrobes.

                                        No comment......

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                                          Matt
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                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2011

                                          While this isn’t claiming to be IH it does evoke a certain pocket design I can’t seem to put my finger on…

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