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IH-461 - Non Selvedge 21oz Indigo Boot Cut Jean

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    Bob
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    Joined: 25 Oct 2014

    I can't do the digging waistband thing, either. Life is too short to wear hurty jawns.

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      As a designer/patterner, one has much more scope to make a flattering cut with non selvedge.  With selvedge, you have to have a straight side seam.  With non selvedge you don't.  So on the 634 and 461, the side seam is curved to be more flattering.  The non selvedge 21oz denim is woven on a projectile loom at extremely high tension (much higher than a shuttle loom can weave at) and is treated with resin before we cut and sew, this makes them, more hard wearing, more wind proof,  more waterproof and prevents flapping at the cuff when riding.

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        bwest1000
        Joined: 27 Nov 2015

        I bought a pair of these from selfedge here in the states.  I am going to get them hemmed, but before I do I just wanted to ask about shrinkage after I wash them the first time.  How much should I expect?  I wear a lot of boots, and I am typically a 30" inseam.  I know what it says on the webpage, but I just wanted to make sure before I lop off the bottoms of my very, very nice jeans.  Since they are not selvadge, I don't plan on cuffing.

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          Giles
          IHUK Crew
          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

          From the product page:

          Sanforized so little or no shrinkage but like all denim, will stretch up to one inch in the waist with wear

          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            bwest1000
            Joined: 27 Nov 2015

            I'm glad to see you're consistent, and I appreciate the reply. Thanks.

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              Sam
              Joined: 21 May 2015

              Restocked in tag 30 & 34

              Insta - @braveinthefaceoflasers

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                Giles
                IHUK Crew
                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                restock

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  bwest1000
                  Joined: 27 Nov 2015

                  Does anyone have experience with these and the selvedge boot cut version?  I was wondering about any subtle differences that people might have picked up on by wearing both.  I have a pair of these, non-selvedge, but I am also interested in getting a pair in the selvedge.

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Restocked

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      steelworker
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                      Joined: 16 Apr 2014

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                      Some love for 461.
                      Do you @Alex have any nonselvedge jeans planned?

                      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                      Well, I have others.

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                        sabergirl
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                        Ooh, good question, Ed! 461 look good on ya

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                          steelworker
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                          Thanks @sabergirl !

                          Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                          Well, I have others.

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                            Giles
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                            We used to stock them but people who apparently can't read would buy them and then return them because they were not selvedge. The denim also does not have as much character as the selvedge 21oz. The 461 is also a tricky cut to get to fit right, which increased the number of returns.

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              Alex
                              IHUK Crew
                              @steelworker
                              Joined: 28 Sept 2009

                              @steelworker said in IH-461 - Non Selvedge 21oz Indigo Boot Cut Jean:

                              Do you @Alex have any nonselvedge jeans planned?

                              Nothing planned, no

                              last edited by 9 Apr 2024, 09:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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                                Travis2375
                                Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                                Does anybody know what the Z stands for in 461Z ?
                                @Alex @Giles

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                                  Oaktavia
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                                  @Travis2375 Z stands for zipper fly, as opposed to button fly.

                                  IG: electricindigowizard

                                  "Possibly splitting hairs, but I consider @Oaktavia to be the beardy, dank High Magus of this denim game…" @neph93

                                  WTB: IHJ-32 - XL/XXL

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                                    Travis2375
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                                    @Oaktavia 👍

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                                      Travis2375
                                      Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                                      Does anyone know if the resin treatment that the 461Z receives will be affected in anyway if you iron them? I found a used pair and may want to iron them inside out for a fresh start if it wouldn't have any negative effects. Or is ironing not a good idea, regardless of resin treatment? @Alex @Giles

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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        it will not. Iron it whatever way you like.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          Travis2375
                                          @Giles
                                          Joined: 14 Dec 2024

                                          @Giles said in IH-461 - Non Selvedge 21oz Indigo Boot Cut Jean:

                                          it will not. Iron it whatever way you like.

                                          Thanks

                                          last edited by 21 Feb 2025, 10:19 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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