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    • WhiskeySandwichW
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      @mclaincausey yeah they had good reason to swap positions...and Lando DID mention the undercut possibility to his engineer before either pulled in and he was given reassurance that he wouldn't lose the position to his teammate. If there's anyone to blame, its left front gun man.

      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
      -Seneca

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      • alexxedgeA
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        @WhiskeySandwich lol at Max being Max on the radio with GP, “They switched because of bad pit, HA!”

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        • mclaincauseyM
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          Yeah. I see both perspectives on it. On the one hand a slow stop is part of racing and not OP’s fault. On the other, he has a large buffer, Lando got fucked by still more bad luck the race before, Lando was quicker, and Lando ultimately did him the same favor when the team made a strategy error at Hungary last year. OP may have been PR coached on it but he commented after the race that he thought it was fine.

          The reaction of race fans is kinda weird to me, people are really outraged about a team decision (the tifosi unfairly booing Lando, and forum reactions on Reddit, Instagram, etc) they have nothing to do with. Team orders have always been a thing. It’s just not really a big deal, and if it is, not really anyone’s business but the team’s.

          Think it, be it.

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          • BridgerB
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            @mclaincausey said in Motor Sport:

            not really anyone’s business but the team’s

            🤔 Shame for the 800 million F1 fans...

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            • mclaincauseyM
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              @Bridger said in Motor Sport:

              @mclaincausey said in Motor Sport:

              not really anyone’s business but the team’s

              🤔 Shame for the 800 million F1 fans...

              Is it a shame for them not to be butthurt about something they can’t control and aren’t involved in? To me that sounds like avoiding a pointless and futile waste of energy, but to each his own.

              Think it, be it.

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              • goosehdG
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                https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/articles/c147p0z1r1po

                52 mil for walking away…

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • GilesG
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                  Erm, being shown the door.....

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • mclaincauseyM
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                    Obviously I am not sure what he did specifically to his employee(s), and I don't like him, but that payout is peanuts against the value delivered under his tenure, and I think he deserves a lot of credit for that value. Under his regime, 6 WCC and 8 WDC would have yielded a lot of direct revenue (esp WCC, but maybe there were some WDC bonuses too). Just thinking in terms of prize money his team earned Red Bull probably easily 10X that, and then there would be less direct but meaningful contributions such as their success drawing in more sponsors willing to pay more money to be associated with cars that have more prestige and get more airtime to show their logos.

                    So it might sound beyond the pale at first blush, but to me it is far more reasonable than most of the high level CEO payouts we see.

                    Think it, be it.

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                    • WhiskeySandwichW
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                      Seems like the Horner thing was just pure drama. I personally don't know and don't care what the circumstances were, but I do think think they did him pretty dirty relative to how little they revealed. At least that payout didn't downplay his contributions.

                      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                      -Seneca

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                      • WhiskeySandwichW
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                        Oh, and it was great to see Sainz back on the podium!!!

                        Max is an absolute animal. Not to say McLaren's luck has run out, but I think they're realizing just how fortunate they've been so far this season.

                        "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                        -Seneca

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                        • WhiskeySandwichW
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                          RIP Roscoe, legendary F1 grid dog. I'll switch it up this weekend and root for HAM for a change, he needs a win.

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                          "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                          -Seneca

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            Yeah I’d love to see him win.

                            Watching him throw his career away going to Ferrari has been as sad as it has been predictable.

                            Prove the world wrong, Ferrari.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • WhiskeySandwichW
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                              would def like to see Ferrari firing on all cylinders to finish off the season.

                              Wonder if McLaren will get it back together to hold off Max, who seems more pleased with the car than he’s been all season.
                              I’m sure they’ll clinch the wdc in Singapore but surely 100% of their efforts are for 2026 now (as are the rest) but there’s still a lot of potential for Max making it difficult all the way till the end.

                              "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                              -Seneca

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                              • GilesG
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                                I know it is not technically possible to oppose him, because like all power hungry twats, he's made it impossible for any one to actually meet the criteria. But I would give my right testicle if someone other than him could win, if only so that I would never have to see that perm/dye job/amazingly natural mallens streak hair again....

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                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                  This guy is like a proper Bond villain

                                  "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                  -Seneca

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    @Giles I hold him and the other MBS in similar regard and find they deserve their roles and are responsible stewards of them equally little.

                                    Wife and I going to our first F1 race in CDMX with dear friends, visiting CDMX also for the first time, and then Sayulita after that just with the wife. Not a bad Fiftieth getaway!

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                      fak off, F1TV....Just got the official notice from F1 that they'll be dropping service in the US, and F1TV will be available ONLY with an AppleTV subscription.

                                      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                      -Seneca

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                                      • WhiskeySandwichW
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                                        Wow, what a sprint 👀

                                        "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
                                        -Seneca

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                                        • Danimal506D
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                                          @WhiskeySandwich I haven’t had a chance to watch the coverage yet. I flew out of Austin (where I live) for a wedding and happened to see the Porsche Supercup qualifying out the window while taking off from the airport. It’s always a fun time when F1 comes to Texas!

                                          Kyle, TX

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                                          • goosehdG
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                                            Bets on Max splitting the McLarens or taking it all. It would be tough, but he’s definitely on a run…

                                            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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