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@AdamJ said in IHSH-292-IND - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo:

@rimaarts hey! sorry to hear you're having trouble with the shirt. Can I ask how you're washing it? I've had jeans made out of this denim and they tightened up a bit after their first wash as expected but did not shrink. 30 degrees C and a low spin.

As you say, it shouldn't shrink at all and certainly not continuously as you wash it

Actually I have to apologise. Merchant came back to me and the problem was I was trying the shirt on while still wet because I was too anxious about shrink. And right he was. Today I'm wearing it dry and well maybe it did shrink a bit but not to unwearable level.

So lesson here is don't judge shrinkage on wet denim.

Weirdly my kaihara denim also had a wash, can't recall second or third, and if after previous wash took about as much time to soften as from raw, now it's pretty soft after couple hours of wear.

@AdamJ since I was already worried about shrinking, gentlest I could. Denim program, no spin, no dryer, 20 or 30*. Pulled out of machine still completely dripping.

@Northman but another question is what will happen after consecutive washes? I also just had the same issue after second wash of kaihara denim. After second wash shrunk more than after first wash. And if above knee I believe it'll stretch, below knee is the problem.

And for this shirt what if it keeps on shrinking on consecutive washes? It wasn't supposed to shrink on this wash too.

said in IHSH-292-IND - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo:

Hey guys! Just checking in with my first iron heart purchase! However I think this and 25oz 634 will be my only 2 purchases from iron heart... For trousers I spent a bit trying different cuts And 634 came closest to great. My perfect cut would be straight 888. 634 rise felt a bit low, but 888 perfect top block but almost can't get it over knees and calves.

For shirts...

Love the shirt! Feels really really slim with too long sleeves. For denim I guess it's fine. Some extra cuff and sleeve fades. But that kind makes me think I better stay away from uhf. Oh by the way love the tight armholes! So much more freedom of movement! Denim also feels nice! Like a soft armour!

P.s. yes I know you "can" shorten sleeves, but when you need 1-2" off, you risk ending up with weird placket. Or placket needs to be moved...

P.p.s. my pockets seem fine. Or at least close enough that I can't see anything wrong.

Wanted to quote this...

Hey guys! I have a problem. This picture is over a t-shirt.

When buying it I was assured that washing shouldn't create a problem.

Been loving this shirt since buying! After softening it got even nicer! I always wore it over a thin Ralph Lauren cotton jumper, and sleeves were borderline. Over t-shirt slim but ok.

Decided to wash it. No spin, no dryer, cold water, denim program, still properly dripping water after I pulled it out. Today I put it on and I'm not sure it's wearable... Sleeves over a t-shirt seems slimmer than before washing over a jumper. Adding a picture of how my arms look after trying to stretch elbows a bit.

Any ideas?

@Alex wait as in discontinued? Next order 2026 winter?

2 more questions...

How about washing? Now I know iron heart says it shirt doesn't shrink but as far as I recall from reading trough here, it does shrink a bit... I'm more worried about width...

And also is those threads purely decorative so I can cut them off or if I eventually catch them on something I risk unravelling some seams?

@neph93 well samurai apparently makes (or made?) 25oz jacket... Soso denim makes even 33oz chore(probably quite so so but still)... So I guess it's not impossible? Really really hard, yes...

P.s. type 3 doesn't exist? Any tops 25 Oz does exist?

25 Oz denim "shirt"? With a bit shorter sleeves that you have 18oz one?

@Ikeaparty thanks

@catdad1 said in IHSH-292-IND - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo:

@rimaarts check out the 1955. Roomy all around. Doesn't restock often but it sounds like something you may want to keep an eye out for.

Thanks!

@RubyRae well I honestly have enough denim. I also have 25 oz samurai. So the only piece I "want" is iron heart 25oz. And 888 is too slim knees and below, great top block. 634 is... actually weird. I never got a chance to try 25oz 634 but last year I tried lighter denim size 40. Felt like swimming in it. This year tried 38 lighter denim, felt almost like your bog standard high street moderately slim, moderately low rise fit. Looking at pics I took, I can't believe it had 10" leg opening... any other cuts i should look at?

So you think even if sleeves is too long, I should still try on uhf? (Probably next year)

And honestly, sleeves on this one are pretty slim so I don't think creases will help much.. but still. Lovely shirt! And tight armhole makes it so much better!

Hey guys! Just checking in with my first iron heart purchase! However I think this and 25oz 634 will be my only 2 purchases from iron heart... For trousers I spent a bit trying different cuts And 634 came closest to great. My perfect cut would be straight 888. 634 rise felt a bit low, but 888 perfect top block but almost can't get it over knees and calves.

For shirts...

Love the shirt! Feels really really slim with too long sleeves. For denim I guess it's fine. Some extra cuff and sleeve fades. But that kind makes me think I better stay away from uhf. Oh by the way love the tight armholes! So much more freedom of movement! Denim also feels nice! Like a soft armour!

P.s. yes I know you "can" shorten sleeves, but when you need 1-2" off, you risk ending up with weird placket. Or placket needs to be moved...

P.p.s. my pockets seem fine. Or at least close enough that I can't see anything wrong.

@CosmoSix5 shortening by 5mm? Sure but does 5mm matter that much? Shortening by 1-2" is not "so" basic... You either end up with really short and unbalanced placket, either placket has to be moved.. at least when it comes to dress shirts, shortening from shoulder is really not recommended...

@TeflonDon said in IH-634-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo:

The core of the issue is that shipping out of the EU and charging the VAT is quite a hassle for the seller.

One is the paperwork that has to go with the shipment - but the seller also needs to set up their accounting to handle sales without VAT correctly. And to document that the goods are sent out of the EU.

Unless a shop sells a lot out of the EU it’s simply not worth the trouble. Now some decide not to ship out of the EU (and are occasionally criticized for that), others offer to ship but don’t deduct the VAT.

I assume that Iron Heart Germany is a fairly small operation, with very limited sales outside the EU (where they are in competition with IHUK, Selfedge, IH Japan etc), so a setup allowing for deduction of VAT is probably out of the question.

Somehow I didn't think of each iron heart as a different entity. But that kind of makes sense.
I always thought iron heart is big enough but if they aren't...

A simple "hey! We are small operation so setting up dealing with international vat is not worth the hassle. We did charge vat to you. Your government will charge vat and some more duties and handling fees to you. Here's the link of explaining a bit more how you can reclaim vat from your government. If you don't want the hassle, we are happy to cancel and refund you your order. " would have saved me a lot of annoyance and them answering a bunch of posts.

Instead all I got was

"hey! You'll probably pay 20-30% extra for duties, taxes and fees!"

"Why do I have to pay 20-30% when shop page says vat is included?? And duties are usually way less?'

"you're responsible for taxes and duties since you're outside EU"

"So did I pay vat to you or no?"

"Please see your invoice attached.
You do not pay VAT and you do not pay for shipping.
Invoice says 395 €. Taxes 0. ".

"Ok. I don't particularly need 500€ denim so if it's 395+ 20-30%, cancel the order."

Order is cancelled and refund is on the way but as of now I still have not understood did I pay vat to germany?

From where I stand it was still "395€ taxes 0" invoice with webpage saying 395€ vat included. So 395 for EU and 500€ for the rest of the world...

@Alex sigh. So it is 395€ for eu, 500€ for the rest of us. Thanks. Lesson learned.

@Alex more than once during email I mentioned, im aware of import duties. But they are usually WAY less than 20-30%. As an example I don't think I've paid more than 30-40£ duties +20% vat on a 500£ order.

Vat on the other hand usually 20%. And yes. I'm aware. Uk government wants vat. However noone should be paying vat twice. If I pay it to uk government, I shouldn't be paying it to Germany.

And when i questioned will I be charged vat if shop states vat included, i was resent invoice "395€. Taxes 0". I said well if I'll have to pay 500€, cancel my order. Order was cancelled.

So forgive me, but is my frustration misplaced? 395 vat included for eu customers but 395 vat excluded for outside eu?

@Tago-Mago "And to answer your question, a German customer would pay €395 including 19% VAT." There you go. 395€ including vat. AND another vat charged by uk government?

If as you say for German customers, it's 395 including 19% vat, either international orders should be disabled, or German vat deducted. I would have thought iron heart is big enough not to make customers reclaim vat themselves.

However after a brief email exchange, turns out that invoice is 395€ with 0 vat. So it apparently actually is 395 including vat for German customers but 395 EXCLUDING vat for international customers? I don't think my frustration is THAT misplaced...

Now it's not my first time shopping internationally, so i am aware about charges, but it IS my first time questioning if I'll be paying vat once or twice...

Anyway. Order cancelled. And at least I got an email heads up for incoming charges before shipping. Lesson learned to never order iron heart internationally.