Hey guys! Just checking in with my first iron heart purchase! However I think this and 25oz 634 will be my only 2 purchases from iron heart... For trousers I spent a bit trying different cuts And 634 came closest to great. My perfect cut would be straight 888. 634 rise felt a bit low, but 888 perfect top block but almost can't get it over knees and calves.

For shirts...

Love the shirt! Feels really really slim with too long sleeves. For denim I guess it's fine. Some extra cuff and sleeve fades. But that kind makes me think I better stay away from uhf. Oh by the way love the tight armholes! So much more freedom of movement! Denim also feels nice! Like a soft armour!

P.s. yes I know you "can" shorten sleeves, but when you need 1-2" off, you risk ending up with weird placket. Or placket needs to be moved...

P.p.s. my pockets seem fine. Or at least close enough that I can't see anything wrong.

2 more questions...

How about washing? Now I know iron heart says it shirt doesn't shrink but as far as I recall from reading trough here, it does shrink a bit... I'm more worried about width...

And also is those threads purely decorative so I can cut them off or if I eventually catch them on something I risk unravelling some seams?

@rimaarts so. My saga continues. Today got to try 634 cut in 14 Oz size smaller, 38.

Since 40 I was doubting it's too big, I "think", 38 is a better size for me. Only thing i hope for is that hips won't shrink with wash. Or give a little bit bigger than they are now after some washes. Gets a bit less comfortable when pockets are full.

I would like a bit higher rise, and for a "straight cut", 634 feels pretty slim. Placed order for a pair from Germany. Let's hope 25oz doesn't wear much smaller than 14oz!

@rimaarts said in IH-634-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo:

Hey guys! Last year bought 2 jeans I don't particularly love.

Blackhorse lane NW1 16 oz was hoping either hips will give more, or I'll shrink a bit. Didn't happen.

Oni secret super rough. FOMO got the best of me so sized up in a cut that's too slim for me. Weirdly after wash they shrunk a lot and fit nicely, but now I need to wear them and see how much they stretch back.

This year I want to jump in 25oz pool. It's between iron heart and samurai.

I tried iron heart straight and relaxed tapered cuts in lightweight denims.

888 38" was a no go. 40" was still slim but wearable. Just when sitting down felt like raise slipped down too much. So I don't want to risk that in 25oz

They didn't have 38" 634. Size 40 felt a bit big everywhere but hips.. So I guess question is how much they shrink/stretch? And if hips are nice on 40, should I risk waiting for restock to try 38?

Pics of 40"

I meant to quote this post.

2 more questions...

How about washing? Now I know iron heart says it shirt doesn't shrink but as far as I recall from reading trough here, it does shrink a bit... I'm more worried about width...

And also is those threads purely decorative so I can cut them off or if I eventually catch them on something I risk unravelling some seams?

@neph93 well samurai apparently makes (or made?) 25oz jacket... Soso denim makes even 33oz chore(probably quite so so but still)... So I guess it's not impossible? Really really hard, yes...

P.s. type 3 doesn't exist? Any tops 25 Oz does exist?

25 Oz denim "shirt"? With a bit shorter sleeves that you have 18oz one?

@Ikeaparty thanks

@catdad1 said in IHSH-292-IND - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo:

@rimaarts check out the 1955. Roomy all around. Doesn't restock often but it sounds like something you may want to keep an eye out for.

Thanks!

@RubyRae well I honestly have enough denim. I also have 25 oz samurai. So the only piece I "want" is iron heart 25oz. And 888 is too slim knees and below, great top block. 634 is... actually weird. I never got a chance to try 25oz 634 but last year I tried lighter denim size 40. Felt like swimming in it. This year tried 38 lighter denim, felt almost like your bog standard high street moderately slim, moderately low rise fit. Looking at pics I took, I can't believe it had 10" leg opening... any other cuts i should look at?

So you think even if sleeves is too long, I should still try on uhf? (Probably next year)

And honestly, sleeves on this one are pretty slim so I don't think creases will help much.. but still. Lovely shirt! And tight armhole makes it so much better!

Hey guys! Just checking in with my first iron heart purchase! However I think this and 25oz 634 will be my only 2 purchases from iron heart... For trousers I spent a bit trying different cuts And 634 came closest to great. My perfect cut would be straight 888. 634 rise felt a bit low, but 888 perfect top block but almost can't get it over knees and calves.

For shirts...

Love the shirt! Feels really really slim with too long sleeves. For denim I guess it's fine. Some extra cuff and sleeve fades. But that kind makes me think I better stay away from uhf. Oh by the way love the tight armholes! So much more freedom of movement! Denim also feels nice! Like a soft armour!

P.s. yes I know you "can" shorten sleeves, but when you need 1-2" off, you risk ending up with weird placket. Or placket needs to be moved...

P.p.s. my pockets seem fine. Or at least close enough that I can't see anything wrong.

@CosmoSix5 shortening by 5mm? Sure but does 5mm matter that much? Shortening by 1-2" is not "so" basic... You either end up with really short and unbalanced placket, either placket has to be moved.. at least when it comes to dress shirts, shortening from shoulder is really not recommended...

@TeflonDon said in IH-634-XHS - 25oz Selvedge Denim Straight Cut Jeans - Indigo:

The core of the issue is that shipping out of the EU and charging the VAT is quite a hassle for the seller.

One is the paperwork that has to go with the shipment - but the seller also needs to set up their accounting to handle sales without VAT correctly. And to document that the goods are sent out of the EU.

Unless a shop sells a lot out of the EU it’s simply not worth the trouble. Now some decide not to ship out of the EU (and are occasionally criticized for that), others offer to ship but don’t deduct the VAT.

I assume that Iron Heart Germany is a fairly small operation, with very limited sales outside the EU (where they are in competition with IHUK, Selfedge, IH Japan etc), so a setup allowing for deduction of VAT is probably out of the question.

Somehow I didn't think of each iron heart as a different entity. But that kind of makes sense.
I always thought iron heart is big enough but if they aren't...

A simple "hey! We are small operation so setting up dealing with international vat is not worth the hassle. We did charge vat to you. Your government will charge vat and some more duties and handling fees to you. Here's the link of explaining a bit more how you can reclaim vat from your government. If you don't want the hassle, we are happy to cancel and refund you your order. " would have saved me a lot of annoyance and them answering a bunch of posts.

Instead all I got was

"hey! You'll probably pay 20-30% extra for duties, taxes and fees!"

"Why do I have to pay 20-30% when shop page says vat is included?? And duties are usually way less?'

"you're responsible for taxes and duties since you're outside EU"

"So did I pay vat to you or no?"

"Please see your invoice attached.
You do not pay VAT and you do not pay for shipping.
Invoice says 395 €. Taxes 0. ".

"Ok. I don't particularly need 500€ denim so if it's 395+ 20-30%, cancel the order."

Order is cancelled and refund is on the way but as of now I still have not understood did I pay vat to germany?

From where I stand it was still "395€ taxes 0" invoice with webpage saying 395€ vat included. So 395 for EU and 500€ for the rest of the world...

@Alex sigh. So it is 395€ for eu, 500€ for the rest of us. Thanks. Lesson learned.