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    • steelworkerS
      steelworker
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      @sabergirl:

      Even if the timing makes it valid, I still think this sets a strange precedent.  Are alcoholics with liver failure going to start bringing cases against liquor and beer companies?  Surely their advertising has remained more agressive and deceptive for longer than tobacco.  RJR has billions to burn, so even if they were forced to pay the whole penalty it would be sort of symbolic–but I think personal responsibility is a huge thing to ignore, even when we're talking about addiction.

      Personal responsibility for your own behavior ? Not in the  U.S.  Puzzle Factory. That train left the station long ago.
      .

      Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
      Well, I have others.

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      • ChrisC
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        Personal responsibility still exists in the American legal system, as does corporate responsibility.  Tobacco companies spent decades and billions to convince people that their product was safe when they knew that it wasn't.

        People make choices with the information that's available, and when that information is deliberately misleading, they make bad choices.

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          Thx guys @twin @Snowy

          @jdl1279 good luck Sir

          @deadendpro glad to read you r ok

          Cheers,
          David

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          • J
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            Thanks @davito it's a work in progress for sure

            Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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            • GilesG
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              When I went out with the Tuck Shop Boys for dinner in Singapore, James from @obbigood said, "once upon a time people used to say grace, now they take photos of their food"…...
              http://themetapicture.com/people-kept-complaining-this-restaurant-sucked-look-what-they-found-out/

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • obbigoodO
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                hahaha! But true….

                Brand Website: www.obbigoodlabel.com
                Webshop: www.ruggedgentlemenshoppe.com

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                • M
                  MP
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                  Just reading through that made me a bit depressed about society in general.  I especially hate it when I see kids out with their families and they have their heads down looking at their phones all night.

                  And yes, I am aware I sound like an old man.

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                  • natehateN
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                    jason jesse accepted my facebook friend request today
                    i'm super stoked on this
                    yes that jason jesse

                    don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

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                    • CutlasshoundC
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                      @MP:

                      Just reading through that made me a bit depressed about society in general.  I especially hate it when I see kids out with their families and they have their heads down looking at their phones all night.

                      And yes, I am aware I sound like an old man.

                      Fully agree. My step sister took us out for lunch the other day and my step dads grandson just sat there the whole time looking like a miserable little c*nt playing with his phone. I was not impressed. The only time he engaged in conversation was when he thought he was going to be bought a new pair of football boots…

                      Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                      I ain't got time to bleed.

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Day time drinking rules…...that is all.

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • ChrisC
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                          My three year old daughter has started randomly announcing, "I'm a genius."

                          She does not lack for confidence.

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                          • bagley920B
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                            Wonder where that comes from

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                            If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                            • SeulS
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                              Well with a dad who has the brain capacity of a two year old, I guess her feeling superior is easily explained…

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                              • 4c4
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                                @Chris:

                                My three year old daughter has started randomly announcing, "I'm a genius."

                                She does not lack for confidence.

                                Hell, I’ve been doing that for years…

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                                • rocketR
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                                  ;D…..

                                  though, not sure what this should tell us now....

                                  rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                  It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                  R.I.P. Geo

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                                  • ChrisC
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                                    @Seul:

                                    Well with a dad who has the brain capacity of a two year old, I guess her feeling superior is easily explained…

                                    Her mother is really smart.  That must be where she gets it.

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                                    • SeulS
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                                      Finding a good, reliable plumber is a treat if you're a clumsy fuck yourself…

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                                      • veloaudioV
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                                        I bet with some 21oz IH denim this could get down to a -20 degree bag:

                                        https://scout-seattle.com/field-bed-selvage-denim-japanese-chambray

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                                        • SeulS
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                                          Granddad died. The world has just lost its funniest, smartest and most anti-social person. His life was insane and despite all the controversy he created, I will always respect him greatly.

                                          No need for empathy lads and lasses, I have no difficulty dealing with death at all. Although my glasses of wine are emptied at an alarmingly quick rate…  😉

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                                            My condolences for you and your family Seul 😞

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