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    steelworker
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    Joined: 16 Apr 2014

    @sabergirl:

    Even if the timing makes it valid, I still think this sets a strange precedent.  Are alcoholics with liver failure going to start bringing cases against liquor and beer companies?  Surely their advertising has remained more agressive and deceptive for longer than tobacco.  RJR has billions to burn, so even if they were forced to pay the whole penalty it would be sort of symbolic–but I think personal responsibility is a huge thing to ignore, even when we're talking about addiction.

    Personal responsibility for your own behavior ? Not in the  U.S.  Puzzle Factory. That train left the station long ago.
    .

    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
    Well, I have others.

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      Chris
      Raw and Unwashed
      Joined: 28 Jun 2010

      Personal responsibility still exists in the American legal system, as does corporate responsibility.  Tobacco companies spent decades and billions to convince people that their product was safe when they knew that it wasn't.

      People make choices with the information that's available, and when that information is deliberately misleading, they make bad choices.

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        davito
        Joined: 27 Oct 2011

        Thx guys @twin @Snowy

        @jdl1279 good luck Sir

        @deadendpro glad to read you r ok

        Cheers,
        David

        last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 08:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          jdl1279
          Joined: 3 Jan 2014

          Thanks @davito it's a work in progress for sure

          Bourbon: because living in Kentucky just makes you want to drink

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            Giles
            IHUK Crew
            Joined: 22 Sept 2009

            When I went out with the Tuck Shop Boys for dinner in Singapore, James from @obbigood said, "once upon a time people used to say grace, now they take photos of their food"…...
            http://themetapicture.com/people-kept-complaining-this-restaurant-sucked-look-what-they-found-out/

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              obbigood
              Joined: 16 Dec 2011

              hahaha! But true….

              Brand Website: www.obbigoodlabel.com
              Webshop: www.ruggedgentlemenshoppe.com

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                MP
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 9 Apr 2012

                Just reading through that made me a bit depressed about society in general.  I especially hate it when I see kids out with their families and they have their heads down looking at their phones all night.

                And yes, I am aware I sound like an old man.

                last edited by 22 Jul 2014, 12:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  natehate
                  啓蒙家
                  Joined: 18 Jun 2012

                  jason jesse accepted my facebook friend request today
                  i'm super stoked on this
                  yes that jason jesse

                  don't you know there ain't no devil? only god when he's drunk!

                  last edited by 23 Jul 2014, 03:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Cutlasshound
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                    Joined: 28 Oct 2013

                    @MP:

                    Just reading through that made me a bit depressed about society in general.  I especially hate it when I see kids out with their families and they have their heads down looking at their phones all night.

                    And yes, I am aware I sound like an old man.

                    Fully agree. My step sister took us out for lunch the other day and my step dads grandson just sat there the whole time looking like a miserable little c*nt playing with his phone. I was not impressed. The only time he engaged in conversation was when he thought he was going to be bought a new pair of football boots…

                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                    I ain't got time to bleed.

                    last edited by 23 Jul 2014, 04:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Megatron1505
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                      Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                      Day time drinking rules…...that is all.

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                      last edited by 25 Jul 2014, 18:08 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Chris
                        Raw and Unwashed
                        Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                        My three year old daughter has started randomly announcing, "I'm a genius."

                        She does not lack for confidence.

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                          bagley920
                          Joined: 10 Oct 2011

                          Wonder where that comes from

                          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

                          If I am not I, who will be? -Henry David Thoreau

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                            Seul
                            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                            Well with a dad who has the brain capacity of a two year old, I guess her feeling superior is easily explained…

                            last edited by 26 Jul 2014, 17:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              4c
                              Banned
                              Joined: 26 Nov 2013

                              @Chris:

                              My three year old daughter has started randomly announcing, "I'm a genius."

                              She does not lack for confidence.

                              Hell, I’ve been doing that for years…

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                                rocket
                                Joined: 6 Jan 2011

                                ;D…..

                                though, not sure what this should tell us now....

                                rocketrocksrox 🤙🏼🤙🏾

                                It's all humbug, like everywhere
                                R.I.P. Geo

                                last edited by 26 Jul 2014, 18:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Chris
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 28 Jun 2010

                                  @Seul:

                                  Well with a dad who has the brain capacity of a two year old, I guess her feeling superior is easily explained…

                                  Her mother is really smart.  That must be where she gets it.

                                  last edited by 26 Jul 2014, 18:41 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Seul
                                    Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                    Finding a good, reliable plumber is a treat if you're a clumsy fuck yourself…

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                                      veloaudio
                                      Raw and Unwashed
                                      Joined: 9 Dec 2012

                                      I bet with some 21oz IH denim this could get down to a -20 degree bag:

                                      https://scout-seattle.com/field-bed-selvage-denim-japanese-chambray

                                      last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 17:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Seul
                                        Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                                        Granddad died. The world has just lost its funniest, smartest and most anti-social person. His life was insane and despite all the controversy he created, I will always respect him greatly.

                                        No need for empathy lads and lasses, I have no difficulty dealing with death at all. Although my glasses of wine are emptied at an alarmingly quick rate…  😉

                                        last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 20:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          twin
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                                          Joined: 12 May 2012

                                          My condolences for you and your family Seul 😞

                                          last edited by 28 Jul 2014, 20:40 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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