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    • Morose_PenguinM
      Morose_Penguin
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      A quick search on Google reveals that Sugarcane used to do a model:

      Sugar Cane sc40300 Ryukyu natural indigo model

      And Unbranded appear to do a pair at the moment, though the site doesn't specify that it's a natural dye.

      UB201 Tapered Fit Indigo Selvedge

      Oni Denim still do their:

      Oni Denim Awa Shoai - 19oz Natural Indigo Blue Fit

      The current consensus seems to be that while a natural indigo jean is more desirable in terms of historical accuracy. The limited facilities for production means that prices tend to be horrific, even in the rarefied market of Japanese denim in general.

      Momotaro have a nice piece on their FaceBook page:

      http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=102753769779169

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        beautiful_FrEaK
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        Samurai did the S510XX-AI in 2008 or so that were rope dyed with natural indigo.

        SDA does the 103XX and 101XX but for both, I dunno if they are hank dyed or rope dyed. As rope dyeing is cheaper than hank dyeing (from what I know), the SDA could be rope dyed AI denim with their price range of under 30,000 Yen.

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        • FurattoHeddoF
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          Studio d'Artisan has/had this model: global.rakuten.com/en/store/vintage/item/sdd1554/

          EDIT: didn't think of it earlier but TW made a rope dyed NI, no?
          nostalgia.ironheart.co.uk/html/Triple Works/1220NI.html

          "Don't ever be sorry"

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          • Morose_PenguinM
            Morose_Penguin
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            Great to see that version of the site still around :).

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            • GilesG
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              FH, I know we did/do and the TW-666N and the TW-634N which will be released any minute are both rope dyed natural indigo.  This, I know is super rare, I was just trying to find out actually how rare it is.  Both these jeans will be priced at USD300, which rare or not is super-cheap for natural indigo…..

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • GilesG
                Giles
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                And thanks for your answers guys, appreciate it….

                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • SeulS
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                  Yeah, at 300 $ that is cheap G… Oni is twice as much if I recall correctly...

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                  • Morose_PenguinM
                    Morose_Penguin
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                    And a bit more on top…

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                    • JamesMargJ
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                      @Giles:

                      IH-666S - All the Original images are here if you want to take a look at big files:

                      https://www.dropbox.com/sh/rgtv5yv5364gc1f/OWuCQoe7g9

                      Let me know if you can't follow the link…

                      Awesome!
                      Thanks G

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                      • Finn666F
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                        anyone living on this road (Florida)?

                        https://maps.google.ch/maps?saddr=Miami,+Florida,+USA&daddr=Fort+Myers+Beach,+Florida,+USA+to:Cape+Coral,+Florida,+USA+to:Tampa,+Florida,+USA+to:Gainesville,+Florida,+USA+to:Jacksonville,+Florida,+USA+to:Amelia+Island,+Fernandina+Beach,+Florida,+USA+to:Daytona+International+Speedway,+Daytona+Beach,+Florida,+USA+to:Orlando,+Florida,+USA+to:Cape+Canaveral,+Florida,+USA+to:Port+St.+Lucie,+Florida,+USA+to:Miami,+Florida,+USA+to:Ocean+Drive,+Miami+Beach,+Florida,+USA+to:Everglades,+Monroe+County,+Florida,+USA&hl=de&sll=25.843775,-80.274353&sspn=0.591395,1.012802&geocode=FSmCiQEdedc3-ykRwcgOorDZiDFlT63dcfKW_w%3BFTmgkwEdD5Id-ynnWC4sjDfbiDFSMLgJCNbP1A%3BFSZRlQEdo4wd-yn1FoDnp0TbiDHyb5s6FqTRrw%3BFe99qgEdps0V-ynh0bmzgrfCiDFjtJaviRNfpw%3BFbJyxAEdptIX-ykrLL9pISDmiDGWjRAoXXnngA%3BFRjVzgEdnQgi-ynrr87xFrfliDHix_yWOH3NxA%3BFXL70wEdwPok-ykXvACW7P7kiDHjPPLKRm8Q0w%3BFRJvvQEdVQAr-yGXzMi1wMaHEymThcukSdnmiDGXzMi1wMaHEw%3BFeB1swEdXEAm-yl3vM3-2HPniDGev6U8BrLDCg%3BFe0rsQEdJRYy-ymbTFA5q6XgiDGe0VV69bALuw%3BFTkyoAEdSOE1-ymtDsX27-reiDHgEH7e-VRK9A%3BFSmCiQEdedc3-ykRwcgOorDZiDFlT63dcfKW_w%3BFfBbiQEdkkw5-ynXixCfkrTZiDGUrl7GUgihDw%3BFdjXgQEdpZUt-yGXMS92Vj7gDynbBWx6MKjQiDGXMS92Vj7gDw&t=m&z=7

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                        • Spring Son of LightS
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                          When you guys get new denim that is prone to lots of bleeding (such as ye olde 25 oz IH), do you tuck in your shirts anyways? If so, does the indigo wash out if it transfers? Please and thank you.

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                          • mclaincauseyM
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                            I generally don't tuck, but I really wish more denim brands would line the inside of the wasteband with something.  Either do a double wasteband of denim, but natural denim on the inside, or use another non-crocking fabric like chambray, duck, or (as I have in some old Rag & Bones) a herringbone cotton twill or some such.  This is the kind of detail that I really appreciate in a garment.

                            Think it, be it.

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                            • ChrisC
                              Chris
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                              Personally, I'm a sloppy bastard and never tuck my shirts, so that hasn't been an issue for me.  That said, any indigo should wash out of your shirts pretty easily.  After all, it's an unstable dye that isn't colorfast in the denim.

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                                @Spring:

                                When you guys get new denim that is prone to lots of bleeding (such as ye olde 25 oz IH), do you tuck in your shirts anyways? If so, does the indigo wash out if it transfers? Please and thank you.

                                I do tuck and i get indigo stains all over like you and a lot of us especially on white tees. Actually i love it personally. The crocking and bleeding will dissappear over time. Indigo stains go away when washed

                                Cheers,
                                David

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                                • Spring Son of LightS
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                                  Cool thanks guys! I assumed as much but wanted some input.

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                                  • injunjackI
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                                    Rafa

                                    If that's your itinerary, I'd suggest driving from B to Miami through road 90, Tamiyami Trail. Smaller road and 'gators and other wild animals can be spotted roadside.  75 is just boring highway….

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                                    • M
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                                      If you wear the same jeans and don't switch from new pair to new pair, the indigo transfer will only last a month or so.

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                                      • Spring Son of LightS
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                                        @MikeC:

                                        If you wear the same jeans and don't switch from new pair to new pair, the indigo transfer will only last a month or so.

                                        Ehh that's debatable. I still get some transfer from my FHs that I've worn every other day for months. I imagine it depends on the denim and the specifics.

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                                        • GilesG
                                          Giles
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                                          I'm getting shit loads of indigo transfer from my TW-666N after 6 months of constant wear, and these give up their indigo very very reluctantly…..

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • TJT
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                                            @Finn666:

                                            anyone living on this road (Florida)?

                                            I grew up right around "K".

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