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    goosehd
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    @edgarallanpoe
    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

    @edgarallanpoe Those companies do not size differently for different markets and the sizing issue you see is between the retailers and how they measure.

    I moved your question to here.

    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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      Jett129
      見習いボス
      Joined: 17 Aug 2011

      Someone correct me if I’m wrong but I think that different companies style/pattern there garments differently. For instance,Indigofera’s shirts are a much fuller/generous cut and I wear a Large and sometimes a Medium in their clothes,whereas as Iron Heart has a relatively slimmer more fitted cut to their patterns and I wear an XXL and on occasionally even an XXXL.

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        goosehd
        Mod Squad
        @Jett129
        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

        @Jett129 I may have misunderstood the question, but I interpreted it as the same manufacturer at different retailers having different measurements. Not different manufacturers.

        @edgarallanpoe did I understand your question correctly?

        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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          Jett129
          見習いボス
          Joined: 17 Aug 2011

          I was thinking that the answer to his question is that manufacturers design/style/fit/pattern their garments based on the general physiques of the population that they design their clothing for. Using Indigofera and Iron Heart as examples of the differences between designing clothes for people living in Sweden and Japan.

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            goosehd
            Mod Squad
            @Jett129
            Joined: 8 Apr 2016

            @Jett129 I see that aspect of the question now and thank you for the interpretation. Hopefully we’ve answered the question 🙂

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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              edgarallanpoe
              Raw and Unwashed
              @goosehd
              Joined: 3 Oct 2023

              @goosehd you are correct. Same make, same exact shirt, same size, wildly different measurements. But the thing that has me confused is that there really isn’t any other way to measure the chest other than the pit to pit way.

              I’m well aware that different companies size their clothes to best fit their consumers. I also happen to like Indigofera for the exact same reason the other poster does. They have generous cuts that fit me quite well.

              But I am referring to measurement difference between two retailers on the exact same shirt and size.

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                edgarallanpoe
                Raw and Unwashed
                Joined: 3 Oct 2023

                Here is what I'm talking about... As you can see, Okayama has a XXL at 45.3 in in chest and Self Edge has the exact same shirt in XXL and it's 50 inches in chest. That's a 5 inch difference and they both use the pit to pit method. I bought the shirt from Self Edge and it measures at 50 inches. 5 inches is a huge difference that I'm not sure can be explained by different measuring techniques.

                https://www.okayamadenim.com/collections/samurai-jeans/products/samurai-sjcbs24-hb-selvedge-herringbone-work-shirt-ink-blue

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                  Jett129
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                  @edgarallanpoe
                  Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                  @edgarallanpoe I think that Selfedge has a slightly different measuring procedure than IH,so sometimes there’s a slight difference between the two measurements, and Selfedge tells you how they measure,but never a 5 inch difference. That’s pretty crazy.

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                    popvulture
                    見習いボス
                    Joined: 2 Oct 2018

                    I’ve noticed that the measurements from places like Okayama and Denimio can indeed be a little different, so when I’ve bought stuff from there, I’ve tried to find charts at a couple other places that carry the same product so that I can do sort of an average if you will. It’s generally worked out fine — I think I had to send something back once.

                    WTB
                    IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                    Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                      Steve
                      IHUK Crew
                      @Jett129
                      Joined: 28 Mar 2018

                      @Jett129 this is about right. When I get saturdaytypefever clothes greaded/resized, the person who makes the patterns, used to work for a main retailer, and she would ask if I wanted them graded for 'general western market'.

                      insta
                      @saturdaytypefever
                      @steve_ironheart

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                        sabergirl
                        見習いボス
                        Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                        I find denimio and Okayama denim’s measurements to be wildly unreliable. If in doubt, look for other measurements and kind of split the difference. Self edge isn’t always super reliable, either, though better. If it’s an IH product, I always rely on IHUK publishing the best measurements. For other stuff, it’s best to look around at what’s out there, and use your best judgement.

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                          BalticBob
                          Raw and Unwashed
                          Joined: 5 Apr 2024

                          Hey guys,

                          Curious to know if anyone knows which shirt this is. IMG_1070.jpeg

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                          Currently up on Kleinanzeigen here in Germany and it looks like a 10oz denim work shirt but interest to know exactly what it is.

                          Thanks!

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                            tody
                            啓蒙家
                            @BalticBob
                            Joined: 24 Feb 2021

                            @BalticBob IHSH-75 came with tin buttons

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                              goosehd
                              Mod Squad
                              @BalticBob
                              Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                              @BalticBob I have edited your post, added the pictures, moved your post to this area, and removed the link.

                              Still working on which shirt it is and hoping someone will chime in on their thoughts.

                              "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                goosehd
                                Mod Squad
                                @tody
                                Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                @tody Good thought, but I can’t tell what buttons those are as the pictures are pretty bad.

                                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                  BalticBob
                                  Raw and Unwashed
                                  Joined: 5 Apr 2024

                                  @goosehd thanks for moving this to the right place!

                                  @tody thanks for the hint! I’ll ask for some info about the buttons.

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                                    goosehd
                                    Mod Squad
                                    @tody
                                    Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                    @tody I think you got it. @BalticBob take a look here: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/2549/ihsh-75-12oz-indigo-selvedge-denim-work-shirt?page=1

                                    I can’t tell from the buttons, but the chain stitching looks right (brown).

                                    "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                      Giles
                                      IHUK Crew
                                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                      Not tin, aluminium....

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        IndigoIron
                                        The Unwoven
                                        Joined: 22 Jul 2024

                                        What cut do you think these pre-2012 jeans are please? They're 21oz Black Armor Denim with a Levis style patch.

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                                        WTB: IH 634S tag 38 in indigo/black or indigo, all weights considered.

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                                          sabergirl
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                          Looks like super black 461 boot cut

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