IH-888-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Ind/blk
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Ok. These are W35 and currently measure 35”. My ideal is a 36” zone. Currently a bit too tight in the waist but I like the fit otherwise. If they weren’t XHS I’d prob be Ok with them stretching into a good place.
But based on all the knowledge shared here my understanding is these are going to shrink to a 34” ish waist when soaked and then could stretch back out to the 35”. I think I really need the W36 which would shrink to the 35 and back out to 36. Is that the right way to think about this?
It does confirm I LOVE the denim and the weight and the cut

All input appreciated!




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@tody thanks for input - it is very tempting. It doesn’t cut quite as much as it looks. Never had this weight before.
I know some people would wear em a bit and then soak but seems wise to give these 25ers a solid hot soak before I can really how they’re going to shape up, right?
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@dwils from the product page:
Sanforized but Unwashed
- Sanforization is a post-weave mechanical process which removes most potential shrinkage from a fabric before garment construction
- However, unlike most of our jeans, we have not washed the completed garment in an industrial washing machine, so some shrinkage remains
- When washed following our care guidelines, expect approximately 1" shrinkage in the waist and inseam. All other dimensions will shrink proportionately to the waist
General recommendation is a soak and a gentle wash before wearing them.
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Has anyone soaked once but find they did not get the shrinkage they are looking for, so then soaked for a round 2?
I think I can get a little more shrinkage in the waist - but they are now 90% dry and would have to go through the soak process again.
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@jglatz I soaked mine and wore them a couple days and then cold washed them and got more shrinkage. they were much better after the wash.
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@Tago-Mago thanks for all the helpful info. And patience as I (we) try to sort this out. I know it’s been covered a lot here and in other threads.
Sorry everyone if this has been well covered but what exactly is the risk or downside of not getting full shrinkage for this denim? Do they wear oddly? Is it bad for the denim long term? Do fades risk shifting around? Can it come back to haunt me later?
Not saying I’ll do this (I really probably need a 36) but what if all I ever did with these was cold/warm rinse with light agitation and a little soap from time to time for the lifetime of the pair? (Unless of course they get super gross or spilled on or something similar).
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@dwils these look great on you man. I’d say to size up if you definitely need the space in the waist, if not - stick to the 35. It fits you awesome in all places, and though the waist will come in after the soak/wash, you will get that space back without a doubt. Now if they are too tight in other places such as the thigh, sizing up is definitely necessary but from what it looks like, this appears to be your true size.
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did anyone find the leather patch lightens up and dries out a bit post soak/ dry?
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@jglatz I treat my leather patch with conditioner after every wash
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Yes mine did so I put a little Bick 4 on it.
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Interesting note on washing these inside out. I did yard work in mine and got mud stains and ingrained dirt on the knees. I hot washed with a soak inside out (as always) but virtually none of the dirt/mud got cleaned out. I guess the fabric is so tuff that even detergenty water on a regular cycle can't penetrate through that well. Just did a right side out soak in the tub with woolite with some light agitation and toothbrushing of the knees, and they are looking much better now. We will see if they actually got clean after they dry.
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@68degreesorless I have found mud doesn't come out easy in a washer. When my clothes get muddy (not just IH), I usually let it sit for a day or so to dry out, then take a brush and brush off as much as I can. Then after a wash, "good as new".
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@68degreesorless I agree with @wjw
I do a good amount of offroading / mudding in my denim and I get plenty of mud stains on them. The best advice is to let the mud dry then brush it off after the fact.
But one thing I would add is to not soak inside out. Even when I don’t have mud stains, I never soak inside out. To me it just does not make sense doing so. I feel like all the dirty stuff gets stuck in between, especially in heavier denim that doesn’t really open up much when submerged.
This is just a personal preference thing, but imo the only downside of soaking right side out is the pain in the butt it is to pull them inside out after the soak for the washing machine.
I always notice a more efficient wash when I soak right side out though.
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@worn2fade you are at more risk of marbling by not turning inside out. The contact between the washer tub and the denim could lead to unwanted streaks.
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@worn2fade Yeah man lesson learned for sure on the mud. I was honestly pretty amazed how little the wash did to them when turned inside out. Those muddy knees looked almost exactly the same as when they went in dirty. Crazy how much the 25 oz can shield itself from proper cleaning if you don't expose it to the wash properly.
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@worn2fade Same here. The inside out thing is only to keep abrasions from forming marbling and random lines, but when you are just soaking them, those abrasions aren't going to happen anyways, AND the inside out keeps the outside from getting clean. The only time mine ever get turned inside out are when they go in the washing machine, but that almost never happens anyways because I feel like they get much cleaner with a hand wash in the tub with soap and agitation.
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@goosehd said in IH-888-XHSib - 25oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Ind/blk:
@worn2fade you are at more risk of marbling by not turning inside out. The contact between the washer tub and the denim could lead to unwanted streaks.
I don’t turn inside out specifically for soaking my friend. In the washer machine they definitely get turned inside out!
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@worn2fade Gotcha…mis read on my part.
