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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    IHxB01xRAW Beatle Buster 18oz Raw Japanese Selvage Denim Indigo

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    • S
      Snowy
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      @Giles:

      Does not matter if you give it a load of agitation.

      Yarns and/or fabrics are not fixed materials.  They consist of separate fibres that will stretch when exposed to tension, i.e. they elongate during the process of being made into cloth (during spinning, weaving, bleaching, dyeing and the various finishing processes, yarns and cloth are under continuous tension).  Some or all of this stretch within the fabric is retained in the post-loom fabric because of friction between the fibres and the yarns.

      The stretch that occurs can be eliminated when the friction within the fabric is reduced.  This will happen during  soaking and/or washing, where both water and soap act as lubricants.  The lubricants, along with the mechanical action of the washer, help the fibres relax and contract (shrink) back to their original length.

      One of the reasons that dry cleaning does not shrink natural fabrics is that the friction within the fabric is not reduced by dampening.

      ^One for the FAQ

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      • SeulS
        Seul
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        Dear gents,

        in need of someone who owns this pair in sz 32, has washed/ soaked them and has worn them for a couple of months…

        Would that person be so kind to give me measurements of his/ her pair (inc backrise, inseam if they've been hemmed, legopening and waist)?..

        I'm wearing these in sz 33 and they're good but a little loose if anything... Wondering if a sz 32 would be ok for me... If they stretch an inch, it should be perfect (even though I'd have to wear them during the first hotsoak and not wash them for the first month or two)...

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        • Bums_FanB
          Bums_Fan
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          Indecision and lack of available funds at the time the second run showed up equals no size 36.  Any chance of a 36 lying around in Gosport or Japan unaccounted for?  Will there be a 3rd run some point in the future?  Or does someone have a pair that is relatively unused and not hemmed that they would like to part with?

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          • GilesG
            Giles
            IHUK Crew
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            Likely do another run, but not for a few months.  G

            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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            • SeulS
              Seul
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              Phew - no size 32 left…  😉

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              • Bums_FanB
                Bums_Fan
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                Thanks for the quick response G.

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                • xchenX
                  xchen
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                  I'll have to add myself to the list for the restock.  Love that denim but 666s is just too slim in the thigh to work for me.

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                  • riffblaster generalR
                    riffblaster general
                    Raw and Unwashed
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                    hey seul…i have a 32.  after soaking a couple times and wearing they measure 32 on the nose.

                    PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                    • SeulS
                      Seul
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                      Thanks.

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                      • J
                        Jpie14
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                        Imma pull the trigger on these later this week so I can have a better pair of denim worthy of my IH super tan belt. Although, these would perfect if I could get them overdyed..

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                          Soi
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                          @Giles:

                          One of the reasons that dry cleaning does not shrink natural fabrics is that the friction within the fabric is not reduced by dampening.

                          I hate to contradict the denim guru, but "dry cleaning" means cleaning using a solvent other than water, rather than not using any liquid at all. Dry cleaned clothes still soak in liquid (typically tetrachloroethylene).

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                          • GilesG
                            Giles
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                            Stand corrected, but that now leads to the question, why do they not shrink when dry cleaned…..?

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • mclaincauseyM
                              mclaincausey
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                              Because it doesn't use water.  If you can find a CO2 cleaners, it is a superior technology and more environmentally friendly.

                              Think it, be it.

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                              • GilesG
                                Giles
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                                That is not the reason.  It is not water pre se that cause the shrinkage, read here:

                                http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4549.0

                                Soi implies that in dry cleaning the fabric gets wet, just not with water

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • radiobomb1973R
                                  radiobomb1973
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                                  hello,
                                  I own the IHXBO1 and OD, while the two in size 31 lenght 31.5.
                                  although they are stretched to the size it fits me
                                  to you after what size and length should I take knowing that I intend to soak it first?

                                  thank you

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                                  • Finn666F
                                    Finn666
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                                    why same question in every god damn thread 😠 😠 😠

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                                    • radiobomb1973R
                                      radiobomb1973
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                                      because I do not speak English and I use a translator.
                                      sincerely sorry

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                                      • SeulS
                                        Seul
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                                        Hi mate,

                                        you can perhaps post your question here? http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=231.0

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                                        • radiobomb1973R
                                          radiobomb1973
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                                          😞 asked the same question four times because I hesitate between these four models.

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                                          • Finn666F
                                            Finn666
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                                            if you would have asked ONE question in the thread suggested by Seul, including all the pairs you own and the one you're looking for, you'd have gotten your answers already…just saying 😉

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