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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Jeanmoreau
    Joined: 19 May 2022

    @schraiber:

    I tried these on at Self Edge SF, figuring I might be 33 or 34 based on the measurements. The 33 could button but was pretty tight and not super pleasant, while the 34 was pretty comfortable right then and there. I'm inclined to go with the 34 but I've heard that this fabric has a ton of stretch–-will they necessarily stretch out a ton? Do I absolutely need to go with the smaller waist and suffer for a while to avoid them becoming so stretched that they don't stay up without a belt?

    Go for 33. I wish I had.

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      goosehd
      Mod Squad
      Joined: 8 Apr 2016

      @schraiber The waist will stretch out approximately one inch with wear…

      From the product page:  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-888s-21.html

      "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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        schraiber
        Raw and Unwashed
        Joined: 9 Sept 2022

        @Jeanmoreau:

        @schraiber:

        I tried these on at Self Edge SF, figuring I might be 33 or 34 based on the measurements. The 33 could button but was pretty tight and not super pleasant, while the 34 was pretty comfortable right then and there. I'm inclined to go with the 34 but I've heard that this fabric has a ton of stretch–-will they necessarily stretch out a ton? Do I absolutely need to go with the smaller waist and suffer for a while to avoid them becoming so stretched that they don't stay up without a belt?

        Go for 33. I wish I had.

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        So you went for the comfortable size and it stretched out enough that it wouldn't stay up or at least didn't feel good?

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          schraiber
          Raw and Unwashed
          Joined: 9 Sept 2022

          @goosehd:

          @schraiber The waist will stretch out approximately one inch with wear…

          From the product page:  https://www.ironheart.co.uk/bottoms/ih-888s-21.html

          Yes I know. I'm asking for people's subjective experience: did they regret going with a size that was comfortable to start?

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            Jett129
            見習いボス
            Joined: 17 Aug 2011

            I’ve never not gone with a comfortable start size in 11 years of buying IH. Never had to worry about slight shrinkage,or the occasional weight gain. Just my thoughts.

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              Jeanmoreau
              Joined: 19 May 2022

              @schraiber:

              @Jeanmoreau:

              @schraiber:

              I tried these on at Self Edge SF, figuring I might be 33 or 34 based on the measurements. The 33 could button but was pretty tight and not super pleasant, while the 34 was pretty comfortable right then and there. I'm inclined to go with the 34 but I've heard that this fabric has a ton of stretch–-will they necessarily stretch out a ton? Do I absolutely need to go with the smaller waist and suffer for a while to avoid them becoming so stretched that they don't stay up without a belt?

              Go for 33. I wish I had.

              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              So you went for the comfortable size and it stretched out enough that it wouldn't stay up or at least didn't feel good?

              Yes. Literally with a 33/34 situation as well.

              I don’t have a lot of experience with ih so take my advice with a grain of salt. But I am a non belt wearer like you. I assume Jett wears belts.

              I think thighs are the most important thing to size for.
              If your thighs are ok in 33 I’d go with them. Waist stretches up to 2 inches if you need it to. That’s what I’ve heard said by many people.

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                sabergirl
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                Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                I’ve regretted not being comfortable in my IH from the get-go. Always end up selling off the smaller pairs, personally.

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                  Jett129
                  見習いボス
                  Joined: 17 Aug 2011

                  You are 100% right about the belts,as they are my favorite accessory!

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                    Nik
                    Raw and Unwashed
                    Joined: 12 Nov 2020

                    +1 for the larger and more comfortable size

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                      weftyarn
                      啓蒙家
                      Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                      I think everything has been said and that it’s probably a matter of personal preference.

                      I personally went for tight waist over comfortable start and did not regret that decision for a second.
                      The waist did stretch out fairly quickly. You can accelerate that process by doing a handful of squats.

                      Going tight allows the top block to really conform to your body (which it will, the 21OZ has a lot of give).

                      I can see why people go comfortable though. If you’re wearing a belt and don’t care too much about the waist stretching out a bit, go for it. Just don’t make the mistake of assuming „the fit will stay like this“. I’ve wasted a few pairs on that assumption when I first got into Raw.

                      Use it or lose it.

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                        neph93
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                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                        Jepp… comfort is highly subjective, and the sweet spot in the comfort/fit ratio differs. I’ve had more more pairs I’ve needed to flip because I didn’t account for stretch and they endes up top big, than the other way. Given your description of body shape etc, I would go w33. A few days discomfort and years of a satisfactory fit is better than a few days comfort and an unsatisfactory fit, long term.

                        “Some of those that work forces
                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                        • Virginia Woolf
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                          Paddy
                          Joined: 27 Oct 2022

                          Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.




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                            neph93
                            見習いボス
                            Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                            @Paddy:

                            Here's mine, size 34. I just ordered a new pair in size 35. Need a bit more room in thigh section. Great pair of pants.

                            Incredible work. That must be one of the best looking pairs of worn 21oz I have ever seen. And I’ve seen MANY.

                            “Some of those that work forces
                            Are the same that burn crosses”

                            • Virginia Woolf
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                              hoppy_IPA
                              Raw and Unwashed
                              Joined: 24 Feb 2019

                              @Paddy just terrific.  those look great!

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                                jerkules
                                啓蒙家
                                Joined: 26 Aug 2018

                                Dang I need a pair of these, thanks @Paddy .

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                                  weftyarn
                                  啓蒙家
                                  Joined: 8 Nov 2020

                                  As one of my favorite Bavarian comedians Karl Valentin famously said: "Es ist schon alles gesagt, nur noch nicht von allen" (Everything has already been said, just not by everyone). To put it short: I too must say these are absolutely stunning @Paddy

                                  Use it or lose it.

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                                    pexel
                                    Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                                    Looking for some sizing guidance.  I’ve measured two existing pairs I have, based on the IH sizing method.

                                    Iron Heart 633S-18 tag size 33, waist 32.  I’ve had this for over a year, it’s a snug fit but not uncomfortable
                                    Iron Heart 633S-142 tag size 31, waist 31.  This is a relatively new pair, but very very very snug on the verge of uncomfortable.

                                    With the above, I’m leaning towards the 888 in size 33 in the hope that the waist will stretch an inch and not shrink after a soak.  Is this the right size, particularly based on the 633S-18 measurement above?

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                                      sabergirl
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                      The measurements you’ve posted don’t tell the full story of what makes a fit uncomfortable for you. Take the measurements of each dimension in the top block (for me, most important is waist, back rise, and thigh and compare the 21oz to a pair you want them to feel like. 21 oz will stretch at least an inch in the waist. I think 33 or 32 would be what you want, depending on thigh room needed.

                                      Def don’t size down to 31 again, sounds like that wasn’t comfy for you.

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                                        pexel
                                        Joined: 19 Nov 2022

                                        thanks sabergirl!

                                        My 633S-18 are a super comfy jean.  Have measured once again:

                                        Waist - 32"
                                        Front - 10 ½"
                                        Back - 15 ¼"
                                        Thigh - 11"

                                        Based on these measurements, it's clear that the 888 is a much roomier fit so I'm not thinking a tag size 32" is probably the best?

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                                          sabergirl
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 4 Oct 2013

                                          If you’re measuring the IH way, looks like you could do 32 no problem, and have a roomy comfy fit from the get-go. That would be my personal choice. However, considering the stretch in the 21oz, I expect there are some who would say you’re going to want the 31, especially if you’ll still have an inch of room to play with in the thigh. Bear in mind that the waist is also going to hit you a full inch higher on your body, where you’re probably skinnier. I know this isn’t being much of a help, but there ya go.

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