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IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo

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    Autorotate
    Joined: 6 Feb 2021

    For me, 888 is the best cut around. Forgiving in the top block and thigh. Just the most classic and perfect taper below the knee to not look too skinny. It’s the perfect jeans for substantial boots. Engineers, Cowboy, wellingtons, etc.
    First time I tried them on years ago at Self Edge in LA and what turned me off was some wide hip flaring. But what I, and others will report, is that flaring settles over time and with wear and begins to look natural. And it is precisely the extra fabric/room in the hip which makes these super mobile, comfortable and dare I say “airy”.
    Embarrassingly, I have stacks of IH denim and the 888 has FINALLY answered my prayers.
    In the 888 I have 25, 21 and 14oz. I can confidently get rid of everything else.
    Just need some Ducks!
    Good luck!

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      Tago Mago
      Mod Squad
      @Autorotate
      Joined: 16 Jan 2021

      @Autorotate said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:

      Just need some Ducks!

      You absolutely need some Ducks!

      last edited by 8 Jan 2025, 20:42 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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        Autorotate
        Joined: 6 Feb 2021

        @Tago-Mago yeah man, recently, someone on eBay had brand new 888 33 ducks. They didn’t last an hour. Damnit!

        @Snafu I also wanted to mention the miracle of the higher rise. Much more comfortable getting the jeans off my hip bones and closer to my lower gut. No more plumber’s crack. It’s so subtle that you can’t really tell looking at fit checks from other models of IH. But to experience it in person is revelatory.
        Re: bagginess. I actually find the 634 to be somewhat baggy with a mid rise. I think it’s owed to lack of taper below the knee. YMMV.

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          Snafu
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          @Tago Mago
          Joined: 14 Dec 2024

          @Tago-Mago
          Thanks for taking the time to reply. I never noticed the “compare” button so that’ll be a nice tool to use going forward.

          I measured out a pair of jeans I have that I really like (N&F Shinigami - weird guy fit) and the measurements were all very similar except for the knee. The 555’s were a tiny bit slimmer at the thigh, and that’s exactly what I was going for. I think I just grossly underestimated the knee measurement (8.6 on the 555 vs 9.6 on the Shinigamis) and how that taper from upper thigh to knee can affect the fit at the middle thigh.

          No biggy though, still in the learning process and atleast IH customer service is top notch.

          I’ll definitely be comparing around to see If I can find what I’m looking for.

          last edited by Snafu 1 Aug 2025, 21:27 8 Jan 2025, 21:26 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
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            yannis
            Haraki san Expert
            Joined: 26 Aug 2020

            Tag 36 in the 888 will give you the knee measurement that you are looking for. Now if you are use to really narrow hem widths, you will struggle. Tag 36 in any cut will have a hem width over 8 inches. Make sure you are ok with that. The 555 has the smaller knee measurement from all other cuts. Look at the 888 and maybe 777. 634 and 666 will have wider hem widths.

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              drewfonse
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              Joined: 20 Nov 2023

              I will say that I learned the hard way to just buy the 888 21oz in pretty much a perfect fit right out of the bag as opposed to “have to lie down on bed and fight like mofo to even button top button” fit.

              I recently upped it one size to a 31, and what a difference. My underwear doesn’t get as jacked up during the day.

              I’ve worn them 6 times biking to and from work, and they fit great, not saggy. Just more easeful in the hips and waist. They still have that uncanny mould to your body quality.

              I’m in my 50s and I’ve been the same weight/waist since my teens, nothing has changed. The 30 just never opened up as much as I thought they would. I personally advise against very snug waist out of the bag on these, but YMMV.

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                RobeOfTheMagi
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                Joined: 15 Apr 2024

                I also bought size 33 even though I could squeeze into a new pair in size 32; I'm really glad I did not size down. The slightly more comfy size allows me to be active in the jeans. At the end of the day, that's what I'm looking for.

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                  drewfonse
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                  Joined: 20 Nov 2023

                  @RobeOfTheMagi

                  Yup. Another option that I utilized to find a perfect, slightly more fitted new 30 was to ask for the crack IH team to basically find the biggest 30 for me, waist and front rise. So now I have a slightly looser more casual 31 pair and a pinpoint fitted but not tight 30 pair. Perfect.

                  The reality is that pretty much no other denim retailer goes to these lengths to help people. Super expensive but the 21oz indigo is unmatched and so is the IH team.

                  Straight talk.

                  last edited by drewfonse 1 Dec 2025, 16:30 10 Jan 2025, 17:43 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 3
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                    iammortalcombat
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                    @drewfonse
                    Joined: 2 Jan 2022

                    @drewfonse
                    Can confirm. I had gotten a couple pairs of 35W thinking the approx 1” stretch would de me perfect. And it did…until I gained back some lost weight. I’ll be sizing up for a comfort fit right out of the gate going forward. No point risking inability to wear something bc I put a couple lbs back on after a year

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                      acboston
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                      Joined: 21 Aug 2020

                      Checking with the IH team, did I miss the restock here with the other 21oz cuts? Cheers

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                        Graham
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 8 May 2014

                        Not yet @acboston they are still to come.

                        We will post here as soon as we know.

                        @gmac_ironheart
                        🤘

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                          akohut
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                          Joined: 16 Nov 2022

                          does anyone know how similar in cut these are to wrangler 13mwz?

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                            Graham
                            IHUK Crew
                            Joined: 8 May 2014

                            @akohut

                            No hands on experience here but from just taking a look I think you will find that the 888 thigh is more relaxed as one of the main differences.

                            If you have a pair, I would for sure recommend measuring them using our how we measure guide and compare to the size chart to see how they compare and differ. This will also help you select the correct tag size if you've got your eye on snagging a pair.

                            @gmac_ironheart
                            🤘

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                              Bums_Fan
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                              @akohut
                              Joined: 23 Dec 2012

                              @akohut I have both and they fit very similar. As Graham said, the measurements are key to finding a pair of 888's that fit you like the Wrangler 13mwz. Across all the IH cuts, the 888 are the closest.

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                                Bums_Fan
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                                Joined: 23 Dec 2012

                                PS...don't go by tag size. They are dramatically different. For example, I generally wear 35 or 36 in IH-888 and 33 in Wranglers 13mwz.

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                                  Autorotate
                                  Joined: 6 Feb 2021

                                  Personal experience, 936DEN is closer to the 888. It happens to be my favorite wrangler cut. I own the 13MWZ and find it to be a cut all it’s own. Liberal in the rise, thigh, knee and leg opening.
                                  I usually wear the 936 in the summertime, but replaced them with 888 142.
                                  As mentioned - re: tag size, throw all preconceived notions out the window. Go by measurements only. Ideally compared to a jean you currently own and like to wear.
                                  888 is such a versatile, smart and comfortable cut. I was late to the game on them. Major regrats.

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                                    Yoprst
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                                    Still a virgin but time will come

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                                      jpvisual
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                                      Are these going to be in stock soon?

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                                        goosehd
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                                        Joined: 8 Apr 2016

                                        @Graham said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:

                                        Not yet @acboston they are still to come.

                                        We will post here as soon as we know.

                                        @jpvisual This was the latest update from 14 days ago. It doesn’t look like IHUK has an indication when they are coming in from Japan. When they do, they will update this thread.

                                        "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                                          Go For Chill
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                                          Joined: 3 Jan 2025

                                          @goosehd

                                          I’m guessing that’s the same story across the board for all 21oz items? Seems a lot of them are expected any time, but no eta.

                                          "Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work." -Thomas Edison

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