IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo
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@yannis Thank you for your reply.
I usually remove the patch for no other reason than to not have to care for it whilst sewn to my pants.
If you are correct, and the fabric is washed before sewn, then I would be best served to soak before wearing, so as to set the constructional stitching, with an eye on longevity and avoiding blow outs.
Normally I cold soak my brand new “one washed” 21oz because they benefit from rinsing remnant starch and finishing agents. Maybe that’s in my head, but I’ve never worn an IH jean right out of the box without a soak.
However…
These feel amazing and I won’t soak if someone can confirm they were washed AFTER construction.
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@Autorotate, they wash the jeans after construction so the stitching is ready to go, the fabric is also sanforized so all the shrinkage is out. 21oz is good to go out of the bag! I just recently washed my 21oz 555s and they didn’t shrink at all. Enjoy it’s a great denim!
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Yeah it’s useless to soak any IH item other than XHS or UHR. Tag on the inside chest of most IH shirts states “wear as long as possible without washing”. I doubt the sanforized jeans are any different.
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@Autorotate thank you for the heads up re: BlackBlue. Have been looking for a 33 for what seems like months.
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@shadow-denim
Yeah buddy. Hope they still have a pair for you. Grayson was very helpful. He took measurements for me before he chucked them in the mail. BlackBlue will get future business from me! IH UK/USA is always numero uno, but in lieu of out of stock inventory, BlackBlue came to the rescue. -
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@ruffbadger this was the latest from a couple of weeks ago
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Ah! Many thanks. Standing by.
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I have a lot of IH shirts, but have never owned a pair of jeans. Looking to rectify that.
I’m 6’4 usually between 197-200 lbs and a true waist measurement of about 37.5 inches (any fat I put on goes to my stomach, and my stomach alone.
I bought a pair of the indigo 21 oz 555’s in tag size 36 (37.4 inch waist) that came in today, and oh my goodness, they were unwearable. Perfect in the waist and top block, but could barely get them over my thighs. They were like tights from the knee up, but awkwardly baggy from the knee down. My wife said they reminded her of the 90’s women’s flared leg jeans, LOL. Weird thing is, I don’t think a single person in the world would describe my thighs as thick.
Thinking of trying a pair of 888’s, but the dimensions kinda make me think they may actually be too baggy overall.
You guys think they are worth a shot or should I just wait for new batches to see if measurements change?
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@Snafu generally speaking, the best course of action is to take a pair of denim that fits you, measure them the Iron Heart way (https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/how-we-measure-bottoms) and then look for the fit that comes closest to those measurements.
You can also compare up to 3 different pairs on the website by clicking the "+ add to compare" button on the product page. This is for the 555-21, 666-21 and the 888-21:
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/module/leofeature/productscompare?list=359%2C779%2C1478
When looking at the waist dims also keep in mind that the 888 has a higher rise, as shown in this cut comparison:
https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison
As far as "too baggy" is concerned, this is fairly subjective and ultimately comes down to your personal preference.
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For me, 888 is the best cut around. Forgiving in the top block and thigh. Just the most classic and perfect taper below the knee to not look too skinny. It’s the perfect jeans for substantial boots. Engineers, Cowboy, wellingtons, etc.
First time I tried them on years ago at Self Edge in LA and what turned me off was some wide hip flaring. But what I, and others will report, is that flaring settles over time and with wear and begins to look natural. And it is precisely the extra fabric/room in the hip which makes these super mobile, comfortable and dare I say “airy”.
Embarrassingly, I have stacks of IH denim and the 888 has FINALLY answered my prayers.
In the 888 I have 25, 21 and 14oz. I can confidently get rid of everything else.
Just need some Ducks!
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@Autorotate said in IH-888S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Medium/High Rise Tapered Cut Jeans - Indigo:
Just need some Ducks!
You absolutely need some Ducks!
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@Tago-Mago yeah man, recently, someone on eBay had brand new 888 33 ducks. They didn’t last an hour. Damnit!
@Snafu I also wanted to mention the miracle of the higher rise. Much more comfortable getting the jeans off my hip bones and closer to my lower gut. No more plumber’s crack. It’s so subtle that you can’t really tell looking at fit checks from other models of IH. But to experience it in person is revelatory.
Re: bagginess. I actually find the 634 to be somewhat baggy with a mid rise. I think it’s owed to lack of taper below the knee. YMMV. -
@Tago-Mago
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I never noticed the “compare” button so that’ll be a nice tool to use going forward.I measured out a pair of jeans I have that I really like (N&F Shinigami - weird guy fit) and the measurements were all very similar except for the knee. The 555’s were a tiny bit slimmer at the thigh, and that’s exactly what I was going for. I think I just grossly underestimated the knee measurement (8.6 on the 555 vs 9.6 on the Shinigamis) and how that taper from upper thigh to knee can affect the fit at the middle thigh.
No biggy though, still in the learning process and atleast IH customer service is top notch.
I’ll definitely be comparing around to see If I can find what I’m looking for.
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Tag 36 in the 888 will give you the knee measurement that you are looking for. Now if you are use to really narrow hem widths, you will struggle. Tag 36 in any cut will have a hem width over 8 inches. Make sure you are ok with that. The 555 has the smaller knee measurement from all other cuts. Look at the 888 and maybe 777. 634 and 666 will have wider hem widths.
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I will say that I learned the hard way to just buy the 888 21oz in pretty much a perfect fit right out of the bag as opposed to “have to lie down on bed and fight like mofo to even button top button” fit.
I recently upped it one size to a 31, and what a difference. My underwear doesn’t get as jacked up during the day.
I’ve worn them 6 times biking to and from work, and they fit great, not saggy. Just more easeful in the hips and waist. They still have that uncanny mould to your body quality.
I’m in my 50s and I’ve been the same weight/waist since my teens, nothing has changed. The 30 just never opened up as much as I thought they would. I personally advise against very snug waist out of the bag on these, but YMMV.
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Yup. Another option that I utilized to find a perfect, slightly more fitted new 30 was to ask for the crack IH team to basically find the biggest 30 for me, waist and front rise. So now I have a slightly looser more casual 31 pair and a pinpoint fitted but not tight 30 pair. Perfect.
The reality is that pretty much no other denim retailer goes to these lengths to help people. Super expensive but the 21oz indigo is unmatched and so is the IH team.
Straight talk.
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@drewfonse
Can confirm. I had gotten a couple pairs of 35W thinking the approx 1” stretch would de me perfect. And it did…until I gained back some lost weight. I’ll be sizing up for a comfort fit right out of the gate going forward. No point risking inability to wear something bc I put a couple lbs back on after a year -
Checking with the IH team, did I miss the restock here with the other 21oz cuts? Cheers
