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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Time For a New Jeans Cut….

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    • mikebarhootM
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      Alcohol fuelled intelligent design  😉

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      • riffblaster generalR
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        @Giles:

        1. If we want to have selvedge side seams and a proper cut, there is a limit to the taper that can be given to the jean.  To have selvedge side seams, the outseam HAS to be parallel, so you have to take the taper off the inseam, take too much and the cut is a joke.  One of the reasons that the IH-634 is a better cut in many ways than the IH-634S, is that we don't have to worry about a parallel outseam.
        2. We could use selvedge denim and dispense with the selvedge ID showing on the outseam (like the IH-461S), but that is probably a compromise too far.

        I totally don't care about selvedge showing.

        PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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        • SeulS
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          @riffblaster:

          I totally don't care about selvedge showing.

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          • neph93N
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            ^ me neither. But judging by SE's experience with the first run of the 301's a few years ago, enough people do so, that it may affect the financial viability of the cut.

            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • manufc10M
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              same here.  The selvedge ID not showing is not a deal breaker for me.

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              • spitfiredealerS
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                Is for me. Wouldn't dream of dropping big bucks on some without it. But then I am
                Someone who likes all the extra details.

                Giles those measurements for a 36 only have 0.5 taper from the knee to hem? Isn't that pretty much what the 634 have?

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                • B
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                  Selvedge ID doesn't really matter to me, as long as the denim and construction is IH quality.  I do think that it is a big enough deal for enough people that it should probably be kept for sales sake. I want this cut to sell well so it will be made available in the new 18oz. Vintage and XHS…

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                  • GilesG
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                    Whoops.  I have tweaked the measurements….

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • GilesG
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                      @spitfiredealer:

                      Is for me. Wouldn't dream of dropping big bucks on some without it. But then I am
                      Someone who likes all the extra details.

                      You simply can't have your cake and eat it.  It is impossible to give stacks of taper and retain the selvedge ID as per my explanation above….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • DionD
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                        Knee and thigh measurements look way better now. What hem measurement would have a tag 38 then?

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                        • GilesG
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                          I don't know.  I have a target, but not sure if it is technically possible…..

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • DionD
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                            I measured the hem of my 633SII and it is ~ 8,5 (tag 38) which looks very good and clean, I must admit. So I am hoping for a similiar width.

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                            • GilesG
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                              Yes, but the knee and thigh will be larger on the new cut, so my concern is whether we can create that much taper and retain the selvedge ID (which is the immovable feast)

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • Jordan23J
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                                Thigh measurement is looking way better for me[emoji1319]

                                Enjoy ya addiction!

                                AE

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                                • spitfiredealerS
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                                  @Giles:

                                  Yes, but the knee and thigh will be larger on the new cut, so my concern is whether we can create that much taper and retain the selvedge ID (which is the immovable feast)

                                  So would taking the knee in a little help this?

                                  Not as extreme as say the 555 but some kinda happy medium between the 634 and 555

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    It may do…..

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • spitfiredealerS
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                                      I have had 3 pairs of 634's i have tapered all of them. The first pair i didn't change the knee measurements and it didn't work out and they are now gardening/painting jeans. The other 2 i bought the knee in to just under 9 and then down to a 8 inch hem.

                                      size 33


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                                      • DionD
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                                        G, do you already have a lot number?

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          No.  I'm trying to think of some great imagery for the patch, that will drive the lot number, not the other way around.

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @Giles:

                                            No.  I'm trying to think of some great imagery for the patch, that will drive the lot number, not the other way around.

                                            I tend to think of roomy thighed, tapered cuts as being perfect for squatters (that is people who do squats in the gym, not people with a dubious relationship to property ownership).

                                            The current squat record is 575kg. So call them 575's, tie in heavy weights with heavy denim for the graphics and you're onto a winner.

                                            EDIT: imagery could be a barbell with three plates on each end, bending in the middle under the strain, and a 5,7 and 5 on the rim of the plates.

                                            Shit drawing but you get the idea:

                                            «Stevie Heighway on the wing!
                                            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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