Time For a New Jeans Cut….
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Just my two cents but these measurements look way too close to the 555.
My size 36 555-02 currently measure:
Waist: 38.5
Front Rise: 11.75
Back Rise: 17.25
Thigh: 13.25
Knee: 8.6
Leg: 8' at 33"I think the hardest part of these is the knee. 8.6 is after stretch, which means post wash they are about 8.3. that's a really drastic taper from thigh to knee and only about a .5' taper from knee to my hem, although the original 36" hem was closer to 7.8. If you take the knee to a 9' (adding essentially 1.3' total space pre-stretch) you get a much roomier thigh overall.
Your plans sound great @Giles - excited to see them in the future.
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lol I wondered how long we could derail that other thread haha
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- If we want to have selvedge side seams and a proper cut, there is a limit to the taper that can be given to the jean. To have selvedge side seams, the outseam HAS to be parallel, so you have to take the taper off the inseam, take too much and the cut is a joke. One of the reasons that the IH-634 is a better cut in many ways than the IH-634S, is that we don't have to worry about a parallel outseam.
- We could use selvedge denim and dispense with the selvedge ID showing on the outseam (like the IH-461S), but that is probably a compromise too far.
I totally don't care about selvedge showing.
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same here. The selvedge ID not showing is not a deal breaker for me.
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Is for me. Wouldn't dream of dropping big bucks on some without it. But then I am
Someone who likes all the extra details.Giles those measurements for a 36 only have 0.5 taper from the knee to hem? Isn't that pretty much what the 634 have?
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Selvedge ID doesn't really matter to me, as long as the denim and construction is IH quality. I do think that it is a big enough deal for enough people that it should probably be kept for sales sake. I want this cut to sell well so it will be made available in the new 18oz. Vintage and XHS…
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Is for me. Wouldn't dream of dropping big bucks on some without it. But then I am
Someone who likes all the extra details.You simply can't have your cake and eat it. It is impossible to give stacks of taper and retain the selvedge ID as per my explanation above….
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Yes, but the knee and thigh will be larger on the new cut, so my concern is whether we can create that much taper and retain the selvedge ID (which is the immovable feast)
So would taking the knee in a little help this?
Not as extreme as say the 555 but some kinda happy medium between the 634 and 555
