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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Collection Preview - Now Live

    Time For a New Jeans Cut….

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    • Megatron1505M
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      All will be revealed…...

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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      • tmgT
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        Sounds perfect!

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        • spitfiredealerS
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          Right so all I need to do to get the Sherpa lined trucker jacket made is get Giles drunk! Why didn't someone tell me this before!

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          • neph93N
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            @spitfiredealer:

            Right so all I need to do to get the Sherpa lined trucker jacket made is get Giles drunk! Why didn't someone tell me this before!

            Evidence suggests you may have to be ginger too.

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            We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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            • spitfiredealerS
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              I don't want it that bad….

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              • Megatron1505M
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                It was G's idea, I just provided some input and a sounding board for the constant swearing and abuse  😉

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                • neph93N
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                  ^ I don't care who came up with it, it's a bloody great idea (I tabled it on the forum a few weeks ago and can't have been the first). The fact that it's conception was a beer-fueled NYE/Gav's 40th will mean that should the jeans get made that evening will become legen…..

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                  We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                  • neph93N
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                    ….dary.

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                    We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                    • Megatron1505M
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                      Man, I loved that show  😉

                      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                      • riffblaster generalR
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                        @Giles:

                        New jeans cut.

                        Higher rise than IH-634 - particularly at the back.

                        More taper from the knee than the 634.

                        this interests me greatly

                        PUT DOWN THAT STARBUCKS, PICK UP THAT GNARBUCKS!!

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                        • Max PowerM
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                          Great news regarding the new cut. There has been quite an amount of suggestions / wishes for a such cut so I hope it will sell well and offer a lot of denims over time. I would assume the 21oz will be the first run…?

                          @elclintor:

                          > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                          • neph93N
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                            @Max:

                            There has been quite an amount of suggestions / wishes for a such cut so I hope it will sell well and offer a lot of denims over time.

                            Agreed! Fingers crossed for retailer interest also.

                            @Max:

                            I would assume the 21oz will be the first run…?

                            I hope so. I haven't had indigo 21oz in rotation for over a year and I miss it.

                            So excited about this.

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                            • GilesG
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                              21oz will be the first run…?

                              Yep

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              • neph93N
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                                @Max:

                                21oz will be the first run…?

                                Yep

                                Obviously this is right at the beginning of a long process, but based on previous experience (777's) what's the ballpark timeframe from conception to realisation? 6 months, a year?

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                                • spitfiredealerS
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                                  Hope there is enough of a taper left when they get hemmed to say 32-34 leg.

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                                    1. If we want to have selvedge side seams and a proper cut, there is a limit to the taper that can be given to the jean.  To have selvedge side seams, the outseam HAS to be parallel, so you have to take the taper off the inseam, take too much and the cut is a joke.  One of the reasons that the IH-634 is a better cut in many ways than the IH-634S, is that we don't have to worry about a parallel outseam.
                                    2. We could use selvedge denim and dispense with the selvedge ID showing on the outseam (like the IH-461S), but that is probably a compromise too far.

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • Max PowerM
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                                      Would it be possible to end at 36" inseam after shrinkage? I am pretty certain not many will need an longer inseam. 38" or above are a bit much if you want a small leg opening at the (I think) most pouplar 32-26" length.

                                      @elclintor:

                                      > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                      • GilesG
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                                        Yet to be decided, but anyone who wants over 36 is immediately out of luck if we make it 36.  And it will make no difference to the hem width at 36 whether we make to 36 or 38.

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                        • neph93N
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                                          I think the key thing here, that'll make this work, is the tapering from above the knee. If you consider the difference between the 555 and 666 cuts, I know I can buy a 666 with a 12.8" thigh and avoid sausage leg because the drop from the top of the thigh is relatively straight and the taper marginal. 12.8" in the 555 is a no go because the the taper starts early and I have thighs like Yamaha engine block. So the point with these jeans (I hope), is to have a properly fitting top block giving way to generous thighs that then taper early giving us big boys a bit of wiggle room in a more flattering silhouette. For us short inseam types any taper is going to help, and be better than living with the big flappy openings that I end up having on my 666 and BB's.

                                          The point is this, we're not going to get (nor I believe, do we want) a W36 jean with a 13.5" thigh that narrows to a 7,8" hem. It's going to be some antifit, carrot-shaped nightmare cut. But we do want the silhouette of a tapered fit. The trade off will be a hem that is less wide than on a pair of 634's but not as narrow as 555's/777's.

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                                          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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                                          • spitfiredealerS
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                                            So if the 634 has 0.5" inch taper from knee to hem are you thinking this cut would have a full inch or more?

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