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    • endoE
      endo
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      As I understand it, we are now one of very few countries worldwide not being able to order the full range of IH product - well, or only with lots of extra costs.

      si tacuisses

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      • TwistlockT
        Twistlock
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        No, really not cool, but fully understand why you have to do this.
        Now i can use my remaining loyalty vouchers to reduce the shipping fee…

        Gesendet von meinem SNE-LX1 mit Tapatalk

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        • AlexA
          Alex
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          @endo we really do understand your point of view. I am so sorry that we have had to do this.

          Since January 2020 we have had ebbs and flows of thoughts on what we should do. At one point, Giles & Paula wanted to stop servicing the EU altogether due to the additional costs we shouldered.

          We tried shipping via the Netherlands to avoid the taxes for EU customers, we have tried a lot, and we have been utterly transparent throughout the process.

          I am afraid that the German customs department have a different set of charges to the other and we are doing what we can to still service this market in one sense. We will constantly review the shipping charges, and adjust them as needed.

          Germany is our largest European market, this has not been an easy decision for us in the slightest

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          • T.J.T
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            I it as a bitter pill. But I think it’s fair.
            If you ever been in a German Tax office it is better to pay 75€ for shipping etc .
            And you could use the stacking option to minimize costs a bit.

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            • AlexA
              Alex
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              @thomas01:

              I it as a bitter pill. But I think it’s fair.
              If you ever been in a German Tax office it is better to pay 75€ for shipping etc .
              And you could use the stacking option to minimize costs a bit.

              Thanks, @thomas01 and exactly that on shipping

              Again, I want to point out that we will constantly review the shipping charge. We are not using this as some way to over inflate our margins

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              • endoE
                endo
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                I know you're doing what you can and this must have been a very hard decision for IHUK. Still, mainly sad. I very much hope this will prompt german retailers to ordering more products from you, so we can get them from them. Frankly speaking, ordering a shirt for 250-300€ plus 75€ for shipping seems inadequate even if it's Ironheart.

                si tacuisses

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                • endoE
                  endo
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                  … and f*ck BREXIT

                  si tacuisses

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                  • AlexA
                    Alex
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                    @endo:

                    Frankly speaking, ordering a shirt for 250-300€ plus 75€ for shipping seems inadequate even if it's Ironheart.

                    We do understand this entirely, and very much hope that the shift is demand from us to German shops will help..

                    prompt german retailers to ordering more products from you

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                    • AlexA
                      Alex
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                      @endo:

                      … and f*ck BREXIT

                      QFT

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                      • Jan_L.J
                        Jan_L.
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                        Sad news  😞
                        This will mean that I will only order very well selected items. So far I've pulled the trigger more often.

                        Insta @jan_lehn

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                        • van OlzonV
                          van Olzon
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                          Not cool. (especially without an announcement before …)

                          No german retailer offers the full range.
                          Not to forget. No one offers the outstanding hemming service with a Union Special.
                          Extra costs of 40€ minimum for a pair plus shipping costs when ordering from in Germany (e.g. IH Store Hamburg).

                          And the remaining loyalty voucher is blown in the wind ...

                          Bummer.

                          . BEHIND EVERY CLEVER GIRL IS A GUY WITH A BEARD AND GLASSES .

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                          • ChapC
                            Chap
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                            Stacking and an extra suitcase when you come to the party  😉

                            Austria's not affected so far? Thought we do have the worst custom guys…

                            God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                            • D
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                              @Chap:

                              Austria's not affected so far? Thought we do have the worst custom guys…

                              I've had the German customs guys look up used Visvim sneakers on the internet to see how much they cost.

                              Amazingly, the Swiss let everything through.  I guess that's the sign of a truly rich country 😉

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                              • DmartD
                                Dmart
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                                It’s not always easy here in Switzerland, trust me. But from what I read here, I am happy live in Switzerland. But we too have some additional charges with the delivery.

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                                • weftyarnW
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                                  I think we can all agree that it's just sad these measures have to be taken. I to 100% believe IHUK have thought this through more than once. From my understanding, the thing us all (me included) care about most, is having access to the full lineup, especially releases that are not stocked by any EU/German resellers. UHR, shirts, wallets, jackets and what not.

                                  Also, from what I understand, the cost driving factor for IHUK is per shipping and not per item / per value (correct me, if I'm wrong). So, theoretically, if we could bundle up all German orders, that would make the cost/item negligibly low. Certainly lower than 75€ (or 90€ in the worst case).

                                  I'm 99% sure IHUK have taken all options into account, but still, here's an idea from the naive customer I am:

                                  IH Germany* offers the full lineup through their web shop
                                  IH Germany* collects orders (from German customers only) over a certain time period (e.g. 1 month)
                                  IHUK sends that collected order in one shipping to IH Germany
                                  IH Germany* ships to customers (and, if necessary, charges a reasonable shipping fee of e.g. 10€ for it)

                                  This is basically stacking, but as a group.

                                  If IH Germany does not want to do this, any other German reseller may be willing to? It certainly seems attractive!
                                  If no reseller will do it, we could even arrange it ourselves? I've heard of the World Tours. So I have no worries we can organize a bundled order. After only 1,5 years in this forum, I trust you fellow forum members more than my bank consultant. So I'd 100% prepay someone to collectively order for me. 😛

                                  This is just two cents from a rather new, but very happy IH customer, who just cried his heart out about the news,
                                  but figured it'd make much more sense to try and find solutions.

                                  Cheers from Munich
                                  Emil

                                  Use it or lose it.

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                                  • T
                                    the246guy
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                                    This is really bad to hear. Premium shipping costs on already premium prices.

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                                    • endoE
                                      endo
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                                      I like your suggestions @weftyarn

                                      si tacuisses

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                                      • Max PowerM
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                                        @weftyarn:

                                        I think we can all agree that it's just sad these measures have to be taken. I to 100% believe IHUK have thought this through more than once. From my understanding, the thing us all (me included) care about most, is having access to the full lineup, especially releases that are not stocked by any EU/German resellers. UHR, shirts, wallets, jackets and what not.

                                        Also, from what I understand, the cost driving factor for IHUK is per shipping and not per item / per value (correct me, if I'm wrong). So, theoretically, if we could bundle up all German orders, that would make the cost/item negligibly low. Certainly lower than 75€ (or 90€ in the worst case).

                                        I'm 99% sure IHUK have taken all options into account, but still, here's an idea from the naive customer I am:

                                        IH Germany* offers the full lineup through their web shop
                                        IH Germany* collects orders (from German customers only) over a certain time period (e.g. 1 month)
                                        IHUK sends that collected order in one shipping to IH Germany
                                        IH Germany* ships to customers (and, if necessary, charges a reasonable shipping fee of e.g. 10€ for it)

                                        This is basically stacking, but as a group.

                                        If IH Germany does not want to do this, any other German reseller may be willing to? It certainly seems attractive!
                                        If no reseller will do it, we could even arrange it ourselves? I've heard of the World Tours. So I have no worries we can organize a bundled order. After only 1,5 years in this forum, I trust you fellow forum members more than my bank consultant. So I'd 100% prepay someone to collectively order for me. 😛

                                        This is just two cents from a rather new, but very happy IH customer, who just cried his heart out about the news,
                                        but figured it'd make much more sense to try and find solutions.

                                        Cheers from Munich
                                        Emil

                                        I thought the cost driving factor are the customs that have to be paid in advance through ihuk, those would still be applied in that model and also depend on the value.

                                        @elclintor:

                                        > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                        • AlexA
                                          Alex
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                                          Great suggestions. I think that our plan is that this will naturally happen over time anyway. As German shops see a spike in demand for product from customers, they will in turn buy more and a wider range from us via preorders and therefore have more available to sell domestically.

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                                          • AlexA
                                            Alex
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                                            @weftyarn:

                                            the cost driving factor for IHUK is per shipping and not per item / per value (correct me, if I'm wrong).

                                            The largest cost is the duty, vat, and fees applied as a percentage of the value of every item within one shipment.

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