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    • MizmazzleM
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      @Giles I’m sure I’m not explaining myself well…I’m going to try and start over.

      I’d like to get a better understanding of leg patterns so that when I read the size charts I can best predict what the leg profile will look like. Know that I have lots of experience with my own preferences and how to measure, I’m looking to fine tune my measurement reading skills.

      I currently have two pairs of XHS (888 and 555) but the former is a tag 32 the latter a 33. However, the thigh, knee and leg opening are almost exactly the same. However, the 555 still feel and look slimmer.

      I guess I’m wondering, if we remove tag size and waist size from the equation, will matching thigh, knee, and hem produce the same leg profile? Or is there some pattern magic that can still shape the leg differently even if thigh, knee and hem are equal?

      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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      • Jcaz6996J
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        @Mizmazzle I wonder if the rise has something to do with it, I had two pairs of 555s-19L with the same thigh measurements as my XHS but couldn’t get them to work for me so had to sell them . Super tight in the thigh and a lower front and rear rise measurement .

        IG : @luvthefades

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          @Mizmazzle. I think hip measurements matter also but we don't account for them. Also where the taper starts from will make a difference of how the thigh will feel.

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          • goosehdG
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            This cut comparison thread may also be of help: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/topic/12810/graphic-comparisons-between-ih-cuts/9?_=1735331680347

            "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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            • MizmazzleM
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              @Jcaz6996 @yannis
              I do think hip and rise could play a part in how the overall top block fits and then where the thigh width sits on the leg could create a wider or tighter feel depending.

              @goosehd that was helpful, thanks.

              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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              • goosehdG
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                @Mizmazzle This is the one I was trying to find from IHUK: https://www.ironheart.co.uk/content/cut-comparison

                "I don't give a shit what anyone else is doing, we will do what is best for us and our customers" - Giles P. :)

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                • M
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                  @goosehd
                  Ok… that’s awesome! I have never seen that before!!

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                  • MizmazzleM
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                    @goosehd to really boil down what I’d like to understand and be able to do is say, if I know I love my thigh, knee and hem to be X,Y,Z…can I achieve that leg profile in a different cut with a different waist/ tag if I move up or down on the size chart.

                    Right now I’m looking at the UHRs in 888 and 555. Two cuts I have jeans in already. But really I want that perfect fit that is somewhere in between where those fall classically. That’s where those cut comparison charts fall a bit short for the understanding im trying to develop in this particular case. However, excellent they are for general understanding of how the cuts fit overall.

                    In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                    • MizmazzleM
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                      @Mister_Brue what you’re saying makes perfect sense. And you’re 100% right. Having had both cuts should solidify my thinking. The thing is my 555s are the XHSbb and by all accounts fit more in line with an 888 on that particular iteration. Which I’d have to agree with too. Not nearly as skinny as 555s I’ve tried on in stores. So essentially, I’m trying to replicate the way my XHSbb fit in some UHRs

                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                      • GardenStateG
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                        @Mizmazzle The answer, my friend, might be a pair of 888 UHR taken to the tailor

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                          What size do you wear @Mizmazzle

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                          • GilesG
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                            If we could do more than provide fit comparisons and also specific jeans measurements we would. Drops mic.....

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • popvultureP
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                              @Matt I have a pair from him too. They’re snug on me but I can make em work. My original pair was some 666 that are now definitely too small for me. @SKT I wonder if they’d maybe fit you? Sz 33.

                              WTB
                              IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                              Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                              • Mister_BrueM
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                                • popvultureP
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                                  He is the keeper of the vault

                                  WTB
                                  IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                  Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                  • SKTS
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                                    @popvulture I think my 33 days are behind me

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                                    • MizmazzleM
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                                      @Giles no doubt yall are going above and beyond in the fit details department. I’m just looking to master the subtleties of my own personal preferences based on the measurements at hand and how best to understand how they translate to the cut patterns.

                                      In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                      • popvultureP
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                                        @SKT I hear ya. I’ve found recently that they might have absconded with my 34 days as well.

                                        WTB
                                        IHSH-IHG-BLK XXL
                                        Sugar Cane Coke Stripe SS L charcoal

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                                        • MattM
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                                          I can still do 33… as long as I get two inches of stretch. 😬

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