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    • manufc10M
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      @mclaincausey:

      Personal preferences aside, are jeans more original than track suits? Jeans are pretty much the vanilla of casual pants: been the "default" pant for a long, long time. The form changes (skinny, baggy, low rise, high rise, stone wash, acid wash, raw) but the ones most of us wear only look original in the sense that they resemble heritage variants of the form.

      My thoughts exactly.

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      • gaseousclayG
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        @mclaincausey:

        Personal preferences aside, are jeans more original than track suits? Jeans are pretty much the vanilla of casual pants: been the "default" pant for a long, long time. The form changes (skinny, baggy, low rise, high rise, stone wash, acid wash, raw) but the ones most of us wear only look original in the sense that they resemble heritage variants of the form.

        people like us are made fun of by the anti-denim cabal over at AAAC  😃

        WTB:
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        • Stuart.TS
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          @mclaincausey:

          Personal preferences aside, are jeans more original than track suits? Jeans are pretty much the vanilla of casual pants: been the "default" pant for a long, long time. The form changes (skinny, baggy, low rise, high rise, stone wash, acid wash, raw) but the ones most of us wear only look original in the sense that they resemble heritage variants of the form.

          YES. And my point was the absence of any variation, they are students. Art students, engineering students, beauty students. People have worn denim and individual8sed it for decades. Each decade has it's variation. I understand youth culture, I enjoy studying it and have obviously lived it like most of us. I'm not and old git that is so detached from youth that it all seems alien to me.

          My point is that youth and teens should 'shock' their elders, not blur into the blandness of uniform society. Rock and roll, punk, hip hop, rave, all of these illicited 'shock' from the media in their day and outraged parents. Now all that outrages parents is stabbings and gang culture. Some of us aren't even shocked by that.

          Rather than open up the world, the internet, social media, Z list celebrity culture, and high streets all becoming faceless in all but the most resistant market towns where independents can thrive.

          It saddens me. Cultural diversity is becoming homogenised (the arts, not race). A handful of global companies own the market share of businesses, aggressive take overs of smaller businesses by their larger competitors (Costa and Coca Cola anyone? Costa are franchises, and while I'll always favour independents, I'd rather they were owned by Whitbread than Coke).

          Society is sleep walking, yet being convinced by the media that we have more choice than ever.

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          • mclaincauseyM
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            Perhaps, but for any generation that is wholesale deemed disappointing in some way, I can point to the environment created by prior generations (including things like the advancement of technology and resulting interconnectedness) and the rearing of their parents. No one becomes a dickhead in isolation. When I hear people complaining about the inadequacies and entitlement of millennials, for example, my immediate thought is that a) someone likely once said the same thing of them and b) they should have been better influences and created a better world if they don't like what they produced. The world is changing and we are in uncharted territory as a species. We are ever more connected (for better or worse) and ever more distracted by ephemera. Of course this has a profound impact on the human psyche; I'd hoped for the better at the dawn of this age, but it appears to be for the worse in the early running. A shame that interconnection and the availability of data within an instance seems to be having a net negative effect: not a good reflection on our species.

            Think it, be it.

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            • tvenutoT
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              “If God meant to interfere with the degeneracy of mankind would he not have done so before now?”

              -The Judge
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              • Stuart.TS
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                I work in social care, and my wife works in social policy and has sight of lots of national research data, much of which is now completed in large scale sample groups.

                For the age group 16-25

                This is the most isolated and lonely generation  ever recorded

                This is the generation that is having the least sexual and physical relationships ever recorded

                This is the most obese  generation ever recorded

                There are more childhood deaths caused by murder by young people ever recorded

                The data is stark too, it isn't a gradual slide as you might expect, they have been sizemic jumps.

                And yes, our generation has helped create that for our young people.

                I am not a moaner, I try and be a doer. I want every week to make a difference in the community. 30 to 60 year olds need to take more responsibility for the young, build more positive relationships and communicate, rather than whole families having their heads down looking at smart phones when they are out together.

                Is this the rant thread?

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                  That sounds really terrible, I am 26 and I don´t have any of those issues but it seems to be a problem, Numbers (in case nobody fakes them) don´t lie,

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                  • Stuart.TS
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                    Literacy and numeracy performance is also very poor. My son is 3, he attends preschool and they advised us that he is the only child there on the days that he attends that they can have a verbally communicative relationship with.

                    This isn't irreversible. We just need to take responsibility as societies.

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                    • mclaincauseyM
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                      Agreed. Everything from diet to the technology to public policy is a factor. I'm hoping we can get past this lull in human advancement. Our potential as a species is nearly limitless. If you don't believe me, consider that we completely take for granted on a continuous basis things that would literally have been considered miraculous centuries (heck, decades even) ago such as the fact that I just got off a giant flying machine and am now wirelessly communicating thoughts instantaneously across the planet.

                      Think it, be it.

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                      • Matty123M
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                        This is all too true. And @Stuart.T nailed it with 30-60yr olds needing to interact with the young.

                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                        • dave28D
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                          @Stuart.T:

                          Literacy and numeracy performance is also very poor. My son is 3, he attends preschool and they advised us that he is the only child there on the days that he attends that they can have a verbally communicative relationship with.

                          This isn't irreversible. We just need to take responsibility as societies.

                          I believe the key is discipline from parents and teachers. Today people are too soft on them and it shows in the result.

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                          • organisysO
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                            When I was a kid the slightly older lads roamed the streets on the way to the pub, they taught us skateboarding, intoxicants, and also stopped us being idiots to an extent. Opened our eyes to subcultures,

                            now everyone slightly older than a kid has, can afford a car..

                            Now younger Kids have mopeds and knives…..

                            Pride of Japan :-)

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                            • Stuart.TS
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                              @organisys:

                              When I was a kid the slightly older lads roamed the streets on the way to the pub, they taught us skateboarding, intoxicants, and also stopped us being idiots to an extent. Opened our eyes to subcultures,

                              now everyone slightly older than a kid has, can afford a car..

                              Now younger Kids have mopeds and knives…..

                              That is so true.

                              I'm not a luddite. I can see the absolute positive impact that technology CAN have.

                              Anyone who's studied psychology will have learned that the majority of funding for research in the field has been provided by media and marketing. Is that because people that want to market unnecessary products are concerned about our mental wellbeing or are they looking to develop new ways of disassociating us emotionally from our money?

                              Industrial, steam, electrical, computing, micro/nano technology, and AI every technological revolution has been driven by commerce and captains of industry or military advancements. Philanthropists or self interest?

                              Anyone aged over 40 remember how computers and robots were going to liberate our time? Now I just see people with a pad working on the train at 6am and 9pm. We are indeed liberated!

                              I do fucking unapologetically love a rant!

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                              • louisboscoL
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                                @Stuart.T:

                                For the age group 16-25

                                This is the generation that is having the least sexual and physical relationships ever recorded

                                @Steffen:

                                I am 26 and I don't have any of those issues but it seems to be a problem, Numbers (in case nobody fakes them) don´t lie,

                                😃 😃 😃

                                "Loyalty is a two way street. If i'm asking for it from you, then you're getting it from me."

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                                • gaseousclayG
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                                  @organisys:

                                  When I was a kid the slightly older lads roamed the streets on the way to the pub, they taught us skateboarding, intoxicants, and also stopped us being idiots to an extent. Opened our eyes to subcultures,

                                  now everyone slightly older than a kid has, can afford a car..

                                  Now younger Kids have mopeds and knives…..

                                  Jeez, we’re a bunch of grumpy old curmudgeons [emoji3]

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                                  WTB:
                                  IHSH-129 size L (blue)
                                  IHSH-19

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                                  • Stuart.TS
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                                    @gaseousclay you know what's funny? My grumpiness is inverted. Previous generations would have moaned 'turn it down it's too loud' 'I can't understand a word they are singing, you could in my day' 'I don't understand this noise you call music'.  I'm saying the opposite. Young people don't shock me, and they should. Be loud! Create music that gives me a headache and that I don't understand! Stop being beige and bland. And talk to each other using words, face to face. Making friends is good. Read a book, visit places, do stuff and learn from having fun, not from Google.

                                    Something is wrong when an old git has to tell youngsters to do things rather than 'stop that you damn kids'.  That said, kids, please stop stabbing each other and throwing acid at each other. Play nice eh?

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                                    • S
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                                      @Stuart.T I'm your newest, biggest fan.

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                                      • Matty123M
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                                        @Stuart.T:

                                        @gaseousclay you know what's funny? My grumpiness is inverted. Previous generations would have moaned 'turn it down it's too loud' 'I can't understand a word they are singing, you could in my day' 'I don't understand this noise you call music'.  I'm saying the opposite. Young people don't shock me, and they should. Be loud! Create music that gives me a headache and that I don't understand! Stop being beige and bland. And talk to each other using words, face to face. Making friends is good. Read a book, visit places, do stuff and learn from having fun, not from Google.

                                        Something is wrong when an old git has to tell youngsters to do things rather than 'stop that you damn kids'.  That said, kids, please stop stabbing each other and throwing acid at each other. Play nice eh?

                                        I’m impressed Stu.

                                        Maybe so. Maybe not

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                                        • organisysO
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                                          @Stuart.T:

                                          @gaseousclay you know what's funny? My grumpiness is inverted. Previous generations would have moaned 'turn it down it's too loud' 'I can't understand a word they are singing, you could in my day' 'I don't understand this noise you call music'.  I'm saying the opposite. Young people don't shock me, and they should. Be loud! Create music that gives me a headache and that I don't understand! Stop being beige and bland. And talk to each other using words, face to face. Making friends is good. Read a book, visit places, do stuff and learn from having fun, not from Google.

                                          Something is wrong when an old git has to tell youngsters to do things rather than 'stop that you damn kids'.  That said, kids, please stop stabbing each other and throwing acid at each other. Play nice eh?

                                          In the process of searching for a suitably large bass bin for my new house, fully expecting the young couple next door to ask me to turn it down.  😃

                                          Pride of Japan :-)

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                                          • Stuart.TS
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                                            @sabergirl @Matty123 @organisys  why thank you for the kind yet deluded words…my cult is now recruiting, we have excellent terms and conditions, and the pension scheme is great. Applications on the back of a postcard please.  😉

                                            I come off as an arrogant, self opinionated prick sometimes...I'm aiming for 'All the time'. You have to set goals.

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