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    • tatmantallT
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      Got hit by a sledgehammer named "the flu" Wednesday night… Couldn't move at all yesterday except to ralf... Feeling a bit better today but far from 100. I must say, I'm not a fan.

      "I know to you it may sound strange, but I wish it would rain…"- The Temptations

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        @toddjcoley:

        Apple is like that too. Designed in California made somewhere else. I think most of the world is like that.>:(

        Their new Mac Pro is Designed Cali, Assembled USA.
        .

        Back to the OP tho, just because it's made in China doesn't make it bad, nor does it being made in the USA make it good. There's slave labour and minimum wage issues globally….Mega had a really good rant about this the other day...

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        • Megatron1505M
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          I did, and I also did a blog post touching on the very same subject  🙂

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            Care to link again please kind sir? :).

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            • Megatron1505M
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              Will send you a PM  🙂

              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                Tee Queue 🙂

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                • GilesG
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                  If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Los Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    In Los Angeles? Really?

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • GilesG
                      Giles
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                      Yes

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Megatron1505M
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                        Thats incredible, and as you say surely not ethical. I'm amazed that can happen in the USA, I guess it is the big argument for the minimum wage  :-\

                        Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                        • GilesG
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                          I have to believe most of the workers are illegals….

                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                          • scroogenS
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                            Argument for minimum wage or a testament to real American efficiency ?  😶

                            How many pairs would you have to order to get to 12$/pair

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                            • Megatron1505M
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                              Stitch a "crafted in the USA" tag on and sell for $300….... capitalism in action  😢

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                              • toddjcoleyT
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                                I remember watching " Mary's bottom line" about a women trying to get textiles made in the uk again and she was paying her staff around £ 6.50 that is around min wage to make fancy underwear that sells in liberty for £30 a pair. Her staff were skilled and most with 30 years experience. Imo £6.50 is to low for a skilled/ qualified worker to be earning in the uk.

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                                • SeulS
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                                  @Giles:

                                  If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

                                  There goes my faith in Everlane t-shirts, proudly made in LA, USofA…  😞

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                                  • GilesG
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                                    Argument for minimum wage or a testament to real American efficiency ?  😶

                                    How many pairs would you have to order to get to 12$/pair

                                    500

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                    • mclaincauseyM
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                                      That's why there are all these fucking kick starter denim brands proudly made in the USA. L. A. Definitely has a slave labor textile industry going on. A lot of "premium" "high fashion" labels use it for their jeans. Railcar is the exception.

                                      Think it, be it.

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        We had a sudden and very aggressive storm last night. Felled trees, flash floods, the works.

                                        Given the probable scale of destruction, it would be in poor taste to complain about the power outage.

                                        When is the electrical company gonna get their ass in gear and get my fecking power back on?

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • ChrisC
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                                          @Giles:

                                          If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

                                          @Megatron1505:

                                          Stitch a "crafted in the USA" tag on and sell for $300….... capitalism in action  😢

                                          That's the business model for True Religion, 7 For All Mankind, Citizen Of Humanity and a dozen other "premium" labels.

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                                          • toddjcoleyT
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                                            is there a way for us to find out this info.how about 3 sixteen? i doubt minster freedom does as they always post things against that. what about japan?it may have already been done, but can we get info / tour of iron hearts opperation so we can help build the story of a product we all strongly support?

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