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    • Megatron1505M
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      I did, and I also did a blog post touching on the very same subject  🙂

      Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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        Care to link again please kind sir? :).

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        • Megatron1505M
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          Will send you a PM  🙂

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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            Tee Queue 🙂

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            • GilesG
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              If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Los Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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              • Megatron1505M
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                In Los Angeles? Really?

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                • GilesG
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                  Yes

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Megatron1505M
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                    Thats incredible, and as you say surely not ethical. I'm amazed that can happen in the USA, I guess it is the big argument for the minimum wage  :-\

                    Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                    • GilesG
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                      I have to believe most of the workers are illegals….

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • scroogenS
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                        Argument for minimum wage or a testament to real American efficiency ?  😶

                        How many pairs would you have to order to get to 12$/pair

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                        • Megatron1505M
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                          Stitch a "crafted in the USA" tag on and sell for $300….... capitalism in action  😢

                          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

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                          • toddjcoleyT
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                            I remember watching " Mary's bottom line" about a women trying to get textiles made in the uk again and she was paying her staff around £ 6.50 that is around min wage to make fancy underwear that sells in liberty for £30 a pair. Her staff were skilled and most with 30 years experience. Imo £6.50 is to low for a skilled/ qualified worker to be earning in the uk.

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                            • SeulS
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                              @Giles:

                              If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

                              There goes my faith in Everlane t-shirts, proudly made in LA, USofA…  😞

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                              • GilesG
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                                @scroogen:

                                Argument for minimum wage or a testament to real American efficiency ?  😶

                                How many pairs would you have to order to get to 12$/pair

                                500

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                • mclaincauseyM
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                                  That's why there are all these fucking kick starter denim brands proudly made in the USA. L. A. Definitely has a slave labor textile industry going on. A lot of "premium" "high fashion" labels use it for their jeans. Railcar is the exception.

                                  Think it, be it.

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                                  • mclaincauseyM
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                                    We had a sudden and very aggressive storm last night. Felled trees, flash floods, the works.

                                    Given the probable scale of destruction, it would be in poor taste to complain about the power outage.

                                    When is the electrical company gonna get their ass in gear and get my fecking power back on?

                                    Think it, be it.

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                                    • ChrisC
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                                      @Giles:

                                      If I supply the denim and fixings, I can produce  jeans in Angeles for USD12, there is no way that is ethical…

                                      @Megatron1505:

                                      Stitch a "crafted in the USA" tag on and sell for $300….... capitalism in action  😢

                                      That's the business model for True Religion, 7 For All Mankind, Citizen Of Humanity and a dozen other "premium" labels.

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                                      • toddjcoleyT
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                                        is there a way for us to find out this info.how about 3 sixteen? i doubt minster freedom does as they always post things against that. what about japan?it may have already been done, but can we get info / tour of iron hearts opperation so we can help build the story of a product we all strongly support?

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                                        • GilesG
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                                          Todd, what do you mean by info/tour?  Just want to be sure I know what you are after, so I can do it right. G

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                          • toddjcoleyT
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                                            I don’t know IH history or how they manufacture (I haven’t researched it so sorry for that). I saw G write something the other week that they are looking to have there own factory. So do IH do the design work then contract it out (I think flathead do that) or do ih employees make it?

                                            I think my biggest personal reason for buying this gear is that it is well made, but with that as I build things for a living and enjoy it and get well paid for it I believe and want the person that makes my clothing to enjoy it and get well paid. It would be nice to see that.

                                            I know Mega said that china now has a minimal wage ( I haven’t read his blog and don’t know it all) but I saw on tv “gok wan  made in china” show. He goes to a factory where they make jeans and the employees live on site and don’t really make a living to sustain a lifestyle. That’s what I don’t want to buy.

                                            It would be great to have a tour of the IH process from design to manufacture to arrival at IHUK then to me! And hopefully an insight to peoples lives we help fund with our purchases. From what I see it looks like H & G have a good lifestyle and I hope that is spread across the board (I know it wont be even but you get the idea)

                                            Sorry for the long post  🙂

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