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    urbanwoodsman
    Banned
    Joined: 16 Aug 2011

    Their yelp reviews are sad.

    last edited by 1 Oct 2014, 06:05 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      DrBabyhorse
      Joined: 28 Dec 2012

      Wow… That is pretty sad. Seemed promising after reading the AZ central article.

      last edited by 1 Oct 2014, 06:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        Sometimes I question my policy of allowing a thread to be started about any brand out there…..

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

        last edited by 1 Oct 2014, 06:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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          Megatron1505
          見習いボス
          Joined: 10 Jul 2011

          I was about to start a Primark thread  😶

          Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

          last edited by 1 Oct 2014, 08:07 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            4c
            Banned
            Joined: 26 Nov 2013

            Edit: After taking another look at lawless Denim and the circumstances surrounding what is on Yelp and I withdraw my criticism.

            last edited by 10 Mar 2014, 01:56 1 Oct 2014, 15:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              4c
              Banned
              Joined: 26 Nov 2013

              ~~This is what the people who buy Lawless denim and the owner of lawless denim have to say about the negative reviews. For what it’s worth:
              http://gustinfriends.proboards.com/thread/79/ve-never-terrible-reviews-rebuttals

              Owner of Lawless:
              "Hey guys, I’d like to go ahead and address your Yelp review concerns. Since opening last October with team of less than 15 employees, Lawless has custom-made and delivered over 700 pairs of jeans by putting in long hours and working six to seven days a week. To accommodate the high product demand generated by mostly by referrals and word-of-mouth, our in-store manufacturing has since relocated to a larger facility but is still based in Phoenix. Out of the 11 reviews that we have received on Yelp, four of those have been negative. We take our negative feedback very seriously and try very diligently to make each situation right. That being said, even after giving a full refund and allowing them to keep their product, for some individuals that still isn’t enough. We also take the time to reach out to each of these individuals personally, unfortunately one of these we have failed to reach out to are unable to locate them in our database which makes us question the validity. Any time a customer notifies us of a concern we immediately address the problem and we send them out another pair of jeans as it can be difficult to address a concern when we are not made aware of it to begin with. We are completely committed to or customers.
              Please note that on our Facebook page we have over 70 reviews with a 4.5 out 5 star rating (Owner of Lawless Denim)."~~

              Edit: Disregard.

              last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:20 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Megatron1505
                見習いボス
                Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                @Dirty Denim  is on that forum, come back Sal!!!!!!

                Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:28 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Dirty Denim
                  Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                  LOL Not sure why but this is the 1st IH notification iv received in awhile.  I logged in and I had pm's I never got notified about.  Whats up guys.

                  last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:33 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Dirty Denim
                    Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                    @Superfluous:

                    😶  😶  😶

                    Yelp:  http://www.yelp.com/biz/lawless-denim-and-co-phoenix

                    😞  😞  😞

                    [/quote]

                    I actually had conversations with Roman about this & told him to not allow people to just make anything they want as it can be bad for the image.  I agree its atrocious

                    last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:35 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Dirty Denim
                      Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                      I'm fat now so i'm doing well otherwise

                      last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:36 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Giles
                        IHUK Crew
                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                        Mr @Dirty Denim hi there.  The reason you got a notification is that we now have a facility to place an @ in front of the user name and het feckin presto, you get told you have been mentioned.  The notifications can be turned off.

                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                        last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 18:44 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Dirty Denim
                          Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                          Oh no no need to turn off.  I just havent received any previous notifications like the private messages I had in my box.  The tag was the 1st notification I received in a long time other than the releases.  I am glad I did I was just talking about you the other day reminiscing

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                            Seul
                            Joined: 24 Nov 2009

                            Dirty Denim you dirty bastard!.. How are ya!.. I've seen your pics of the family on (ef)FB!.. I'm keeping track!.. Good to see ya here though mate!..

                            last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 19:01 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Megatron1505
                              見習いボス
                              Joined: 10 Jul 2011

                              Nice to read you Sal, good to see you back here.

                              Made in England, clothed in Japan, fed in America and drunk in Belgium !

                              last edited by 2 Oct 2014, 19:24 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Dirty Denim
                                Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                                Thanks a mil fella's  Iv been keeping up with you @megatron1505 ,  I read a few of your Denim Hunter submissions & @Seul I get reminded of you every time I watch Pehhhpa Pig with my daughter.  I'll stop in to some of the threads to catch up a bit & leave this thread alone for you vultures

                                last edited by 10 Mar 2014, 01:03 3 Oct 2014, 00:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  derivative666
                                  Joined: 30 Jan 2011

                                  Welcome back @dirtydenim

                                  "honorable mention to the bearded giant aka derivative666 for being a stand up dude & not changing with the seasons since i've been around these parts" Monday

                                  last edited by 3 Oct 2014, 10:11 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Snowy
                                    Joined: 15 Jun 2012

                                    Nice to see you @Dirty Denim . Hope too see you back around a bit more. Can't go wrong with IH. Lawless, could be a bit hit or miss from the look of it :o

                                    last edited by 3 Oct 2014, 10:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      Anesthetist
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 14 May 2011

                                      Welcome back Sal!

                                      IG: bluehandsslim

                                      last edited by 3 Oct 2014, 11:39 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Dirty Denim
                                        Joined: 6 Apr 2012

                                        Whats up & thanks for the welcome party..you guys are always great.

                                        Im gonna give my take on this whole Kickstarter Lawless thing

                                        Yes I think the problem with some of his customers style choices prior to kickstarter were cheesy & primarily local walk ins who brought their own ideas.  Some people including the brands we love have had occasional bad taste & I still bought from them.  With Lawless I will make what I want made & it will cost me $69 - $125 for fully customized.  You want something made with the same fabric you saw from another brand …Find it & its Done.  You missed out on a shirt from another brand...DONE.  You cant afford $1000 for a jacket because you are worried your wife will divorce you..No problem its done & at $125.  If you are worried about construction & longevity..the price is worth the chance & is the the same reason why we all have bought cheaper alternatives for certain things.  It might even turn out great & you will save some cash.

                                        For the price Lawless is charging to make a fully custom piece I dont see why you wouldn't tell him what you want .  If you dont like the name Lawless it doesn't have to be put on the garment but you could tell him to put your own choice.  I mean I understand "kickstarter"  brands have the label of being sellouts who didn't want to develop a story of their own by scratching and clawing & watering down the market with I am American so buy my heritage products but with that said if someone is going to come to me with a Jennifer Lopez body & face & she is actually interested in me, I am not gonna tell her but you aren't JLO so I cant hang out with you.  Thats just silly and I think its silly for people to not want to get something that is being sold for $500 for $70 instead.  Of course that doesn't mean there isn't value in buying from a brand who is priced higher than a kickstarter brand.  I mean I love many brands including IH but I don't have the money to go all IH or all Mister Freedom but will occasionally buy 1 thing.

                                        Since when is saving money not good.

                                        last edited by 3 Oct 2014, 12:03 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          Unless these brands have a full set of vintage Union Special sewing machines and extraordinarily experienced and talented seamstresses, there is no way they can make jeans or jackets approaching Iron Heart quality.  That is even if they could get hold of the denim, which they can't unless they steal it.

                                          We have maxed out capacity on our heavyweight jeans line at the moment.  We are looking to find another factory who can help out.  If we can find someone we trust, we will let them start on the 17oz stuff and then move up the oz range over time.  Haraki tells me, that even after a lot of practice on our "lighter" weight denims, a large proportion of the seamstresses will never make the grade we require on 21 and 25oz jeans and jackets…

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 3 Oct 2014, 12:13 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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