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    • motojoboboM
      motojobobo
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      Hey @Crit_Obs …yes they are on the 4811 last. Your question made me doubt my memory and I just checked the specs Baker's sent me when I placed my order in early 2016. They are built on the Smokejumper standard last, which is the 4811.

      I found two pics I took when I received them and I think the toe looked higher/taller back then. What do you think?

      I don't use shoe trees in them, so that may also explain why the toes have flattened out over time and abuse.

      The journey is the objective.

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      • C
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        @motojobobo:

        What do you think?

        I think they look phenomenal, in their new/abused states alike! Thanks a lot for the build details, I think you hit it out off the park going unstructured for the toe as that has allowed the boot to age naturally & evenly, without the celastic bump sticking out. The distressed leather is demonstrating its nick-absorbing qualities as well as I don’t think I can spot any shift-lever damage to the vamp of the left boot.

        Having dabbled in other lasts a bit I think it’s time for me to admit the 4811 is what suits me the best. The bulpous toe is the only thing keeping it from being very suitable for a slightly more ”refined” build but going unstructured could help alleviate some of that… 😎

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        • motojoboboM
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          Thanks for your comments Crit_obs.

          They are my only pair of Whites, so I can't compare the 4811 to any other of their lasts. I find the arch support in these 'supremely comfortable'. They are the first boots I own to offer that kind of comfort and I've lately started considering a second pair.

          I'd like to next try a last with even some more arch support…something like the 690 (Packers). Packers should look right at home around cattle so that should work well for me. Bakers Build-a-Boot doesn't seem to allow custom orders for Packers though. I'll probably need to email or call to inquire about that possibility.

          At any rate, I will always prefer unstructured toes. I don't like the 'line' that appears at the end of the celastic (or steel) toe. I don't use them for smart occasions so I don't mind the collapsed toe look.

          The journey is the objective.

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          • C
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            @motojobobo:

            I'd like to next try a last with even some more arch support…something like the 690 (Packers). Packers should look right at home around cattle so that should work well for me. Bakers Build-a-Boot doesn't seem to allow custom orders for Packers though. I'll probably need to email or call to inquire about that possibility.

            If you are in the States and don't mind "standard" 690-last Packers, these guys have them in black and brown for $335 a pop:

            http://nicholascustomleather.3dcartstores.com/

            I have tried contacting them through the "Contact us" feature on the site, to inquire about international shipping (which should be possible as per their faq), but they don't reply. Anyway, this is the cheapest entry into the White's packer -world that I have found, Baker's exclusive "vintage packer" not withstanding. 😎

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            • motojoboboM
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              @Crit_Obs : I'm thinking about getting a pair of Packers in horsehide, so that will rule out most standard builds I suppose. Don't have any footwear on horsehide yet and I really want to try it out.

              Thanks for spotting the nicholas custom leather option for me…it really is a great price. And yes, I'm not in the US so I prefer to get a custom build where the chances of ill-fit are less, and avoid troublesome returns. I sent my measurements in to Baker's a few years ago and they nailed the fit for me (10C). As I commented earlier, those White's boots ordered through Bakers are my best fitting and most comfortable boot I've ever owned/tried. I assume the extreme comfort has mostly to do with the Arch-support system, but it must also owe some to the correct sizing. They are my first (and only so far) footwear in 10C size. I guess I've spent 40 plus years wearing boots which were too wide for me. You learn...just hope it hadn't taken soooo long.

              The journey is the objective.

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              • GilesG
                Giles
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                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                • SeulS
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                  Is that part 1 of 250?..

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                  • GilesG
                    Giles
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                    😉

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                    • mikebarhootM
                      mikebarhoot
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                      Nice motojobo!  ….& G

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                      • mikebarhootM
                        mikebarhoot
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                        Oops. Missed the second bo

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          Somehow they got seriously gouged, prompting an unwelcome/premature polishing and likely some leather repair. John Lofgren engineers.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • NomadN
                            Nomad
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                            Cleaned up the stitching on my Viberg flesh outs.

                            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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                            • den1mheadD
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                              @Nomad - how did you clean up the (white?) stitching on your boots?

                              I have a pair of Nicks boots where the white stitching has turned black through polishing and I loved the contrast when the stitching was white . . .

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                              • NomadN
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                                @den1mhead:

                                @Nomad - how did you clean up the (white?) stitching on your boots?

                                I have a pair of Nicks boots where the white stitching has turned black through polishing and I loved the contrast when the stitching was white . . .

                                Toothbrush and diluted washing up liquid. [emoji106]

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                                • AetasA
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                                  Beatiful Clean Evolution 👍…....Well done ...thanks @Nomad !

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                                  • ChapC
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                                    Went to a bootmaker in Vienna this morning to order a pair of custom boots…more to see in about three months...

                                    God has blessed you richly, so get down on your knees and thank him. Don’t forget the less fortunate or God will personally kick your ass. I’d love to do it for him, but I can’t be everywhere. Willie Nelson

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                                    • neph93N
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                                      Well all the necessary ingredients certainly seem to be in place for something quite special @Chap

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                      • ChrisC
                                        Chris
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                                        Green shell cordovan, Norwegian welt, GAH speed hooks?
                                        Oh, those are going to be very nice.

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                                        • S
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                                          The Wiener/Budapester Style is just splendid, the Wholecut (?) looks faboulos, will the Boots be Zwiegenäht ?

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                                          • mikebarhootM
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                                            I’m such a whore!!!

                                            New Shark Luchesse’s
                                            billfold +20yrs
                                            CC case for HATE Pig ~3yrs

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