Unpopular opinions
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The Lord of the Rings trilogy is overrated. Yeah, the books were good, more or less, but the movie adaptation wasn't. The camera trickery to make hobbits and dwarves wasn't believable, the orcs and other assorted bad creatures were just laughable and the entire thing should have been edited down by about 20%. It was boring and now Peter Jackson has free rein to indulge himself in vomiting out 3 hour special effects craptaculars, which should be a crime against humanity.
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I'm the other way, really enjoyed the movies and hated the books. Tolkien was a linguist and wrote much of his work as a literary exercise in inventing a language (Elvish). The narrative is clunky and he has a tendency to over describe everything, the first chapters of LOTR are a prime example, I couldn't even make it through them these days.
Related: The Star Wars movies (all of them) are massively overrated, George Lucas cannot write scripts or dialogue and don't even get me thinking about his ability as a director. From the same time period the Indiana Jones movies were far superior, apart from the last one which raped my childhood.
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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull does not exist.
I read the LOTR books when I was a kid, and they were mostly enjoyable. I tried to do it again before the movies were released and I gave up halfway through The Two Towers. They were still better than the movies. And turning The Hobbit into 3 movies had absolutely no purpose other than to steal money from fools.
As for the Star Wars trilogy, you're largely right. Star Wars was a poor (but entertaining) movie. The Empire Strikes Back was moderately better, which I chalk up to being the only one Lucas didn't infect by directing himself. The less said about the ridiculous Return of the
Care BearsJedi, the better. Everything that came after, books, comics, tv series, the horrifying "prequel" trilogy, video games, etc. just further chips away at anything good there may have been in those 3 movies. -
Which version of the original trilogy are we talking about? No matter how you go, over rated I would agree, but I wouldn't call theoriginal takes bad movies either. As to the directing, I agree, the dude got way lucky with a story people took to enough that they have credited him way too much.
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With you Mega most of that, but I love the original Star Wars despite Lucas' ineptitudes. And Lucas executive produced at least Raiders if not all of them, so gotta give him some love.
Raiders has the finest scoring in cinematic history.
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This fucked my enjoyment of Raiders to a degree. I can't watch it without thinking of this and picking apart the movie.
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I mean the original theatrical release only. Every re-edit afterwards is shit.
And executive producing just means writing a fat check. No creative input given or recognition deserved.
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That's completely false, Lucas wrote The Adventures of Indiana Smith which ultimately was adapted into the film. And even if it were true, bankrolling something great and assuming that risk is very important.
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This fucked my enjoyment of Raiders to a degree. I can't watch it without thinking of this and picking apart the movie.
Agreed. I was just about to post this.
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That's a delightfull, little mindfuck that^
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Does that even matter? I guess I have a postmodern view on such. They didn't KNOW that the Nazis wouldn't be able to leverage this powerful relic. It's all about the journey. It's not even a plot hole.
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Raiders is a great movie because it's fun, and you mother fuckers are doing a bang up job of sucking the fun out of it. Everything does not have to be thought about to the nth degree
Plot holes discovered by "oh so smart" sit coms and postmodern views, give me a break
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I realise this, but sometimes the depth of poring over the exquisite minutia of every last thing really sucks away at the most important thing…..how it makes you feel.
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Yeah, to restate: "it's all about the journey"
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That movie is and will always be a huge chunk of formative memories. Matters little how much satisfaction I get out of finer points, and besides that I like some things for how absurd they can be. My current position is little different from times I have burned out watching it too much, it will pass with time.
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Yeah, I pretty much was Indiana Jones. He replaced my Cowboy Bob persona. I had a whip, a leather(ette) jacket, a fedora… Still, very fashionable to hate on Lucas, but Star Wars, warts and all, and the other biggest franchise of the era don't happen without him, period. My disdain for Lucas is based on not leaving well enough alone. I still esteem his "well enough."
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I more view the Big Bang/Raiders thing as a funny anecdote to tell at a gathering of friends busting each other's balls, rather than ComicCon. It's just a clever observation that makes you look at the film from a different angle.
The whole Greedo/Lucas debate is moot for me too. I just like Star Wars 4,5,and 6 so much that it doesn't matter which details Lucas tweaks.
I'm having a hard time imagining all of these old actors like Hammil, Ford, and Fisher in their old roles in Star Wars. Still looking forward to them though.
