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    Iron Heart Fall/Winter 2025 Live Reveal - Thursday 12th of June at 1700BST

    IH-555S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo PREVIOUSLY IH-555-01

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    • neph93N
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      @vittel:

      Sorry, let me phrase myself better. I understand that the thighs don't stretch out much, that's why I want to watch the thigh measurements. However on my current pair there's still room in the thighs, it's the waist thats killing me.

      If I understand you right then you could do with a larger waist than the measurements you posted and a thigh about the same? In that case you've still got a problem, I think. To get the thighs the same you'll need a tagged 31 in the 555-01 but that will end up with an actual 33" waist which will be way too big. The tagged 31 in the 777 will end up with a 32 waist which sounds like it might work for you, but a slimmer thigh than you have now. So, still risky.

      @vittel:

      Any comments on 555 vs 777 in this aspect? (roomy top block and thigh, slim leg, small leg opening?)

      I own the 555-01 but not the 777 (although the denim is the same). They are both slim, tapered jeans. The major difference (I believe) is that the 777 has a lower rise and a more aggressive taper than the 555. Otherwise you can compare the sizing charts yourself and remember, on the 21oz denim you'll get about 3% stretch on all areas that are subjected to stress (waist, thighs, crotch, arse, knees). Good luck.

      “Some of those that work forces
      Are the same that burn crosses”

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        Thank you for all your suggestions. I was thinking the 555 in tag size 30 might be what I need, but I'll go check out the 777 before I decide.

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        • BluegrassB
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          "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

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          • SimoonS
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            Skinny fit, it´s relative, for me it´s just a slim tapered, like a 1955 or lvc 1954 with a more slim leg and front/back rise. Fit good on me or on people with VERY skinny legs. If not it´s ridiculous. And inverse, the 666 fit loose on me, ridiculous… I imagine a 634 on me...
            Any idea for the 777, very Nice patch, fit, un alternative between 666 and 555.

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            • SimoonS
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              Size 31 an me, hemmed with the union spécial, 178cm, 60kg…  I have skinny jeans ( edwin or the best april 77), it´s like leggings, not like this.

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              • SimoonS
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                Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

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                • GilesG
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                  Never say never….But no plans....

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • SimoonS
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                    Okay, maybe one day…

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                    • SimoonS
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                      @Bluegrass:

                      "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

                      Send pix of you and what are your favorite denim now, to compare fits.

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                      • BluegrassB
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                        I don't have a good pic, but here is a top block and legs, 555-01. In cooler weather I rotate these with various versions of 634 (over-dyed, s, vulcan, SExIH13), beatle busters and Devil's Ducks.

                        This summer I've mostly been wearing the 14oz 666L, Mr Freedom Okinawa and MN topsiders, and Roy Ducks.  This is the 666L - as you noted, much different fit than the 555.  So many choices - all good ones!

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                        • 4c4
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                          @Simoon:

                          Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

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                          This new 25oz collaboration actually looks slimmer than the 555 if the size charts are correct:
                          http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7879.msg418704#new

                          I think this might be the reason for the change from this:
                          @Giles:

                          Dear xx

                          The 555 cut will NOT be done in 25oz.  We like to give our customers the option of being able to procreate at some time in the futrue.

                          Giles

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                          Never say never….But no plans....

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                          • GilesG
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                            It's not…..

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                              I don't know about selvedge 21oz in bottoms 634s/ 666s/ 777s / 301s / 555-01
                              These bottoms used selvedge21oz  same type ?
                              sometime I think it dye color differrent.

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                              • GilesG
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                                21oz in all those cuts is the same fabric, dyed in the same vats, woven on the same loom.  But different batches of natural stuff vary from batch to batch…

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                  Just noticed Rivet & Hide have 555-01 listed on their website but the sizing is different (and seem ideal for me) than the ones on the IH website. Were these a different batch from the IH batch?

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                                  • neph93N
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                                    Giles will know for sure, but I believe the first run and second run had very slight differences. The second run was about 0.5-0.8" smaller in the waist. Thighs were about the same though. However, I'm pretty sure R&H got the same restock ..maybe different measuring metods..?

                                    “Some of those that work forces
                                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                                    • GilesG
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                                      They got a restock….

                                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                                      • neph93N
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                                        IHUK definitly updated the sizing tables when the 2nd batch came in. I remember because I bought my pair the day they changed. The first batch were similar to/the same as the 555-03. You could always check with Danny and co if they updated their tables.

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
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                                          @neph93:

                                          IHUK definitly updated the sizing tables when the 2nd batch came in. I remember because I bought my pair the day they changed. The first batch were similar to/the same as the 555-03. You could always check with Danny and co if they updated their tables.

                                          As ever, I'd like something between the 34 and 36 going by the IH sizes. Still looking at other cuts to see what would be best from what's in stock.

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                                          • neph93N
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                                            @stevehm:

                                            @neph93:

                                            As ever, I'd like something between the 34 and 36 going by the IH sizes. Still looking at other cuts to see what would be best from what's in stock.

                                            Oh my days,  I do know how you feel… 😃

                                            I bagged a tagged 34 with a larger waist than the new measurements (35.1"). The guys and "gal" in Gosport will go the extra mile for you, so if a pair exists in stock that is a big 34 (or a small 36) they'll find it. Just ask. Btw I'm sure Danny will do the same.

                                            “Some of those that work forces
                                            Are the same that burn crosses”

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