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IH-555S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo PREVIOUSLY IH-555-01

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    vittel
    Joined: 12 Oct 2011

    Sorry, let me phrase myself better. I understand that the thighs don't stretch out much, that's why I want to watch the thigh measurements. However on my current pair there's still room in the thighs, it's the waist thats killing me. The feedback on the "comfy rise and roomy top block" is what got me interested. Baggy top block and diaper ass is the opposite of what I am looking for. I wear a belt depending on occasion, not all the time, so I would want a snuggish waist that doesn't have to rely on a belt.

    Any comments on 555 vs 777 in this aspect? (roomy top block and thigh, slim leg, small leg opening?)

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      Giles
      IHUK Crew
      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

      Personally I don't think either of these cuts is not for you, but if you are determined, the 777 would be better…..

      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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        neph93
        見習いボス
        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

        @vittel:

        Sorry, let me phrase myself better. I understand that the thighs don't stretch out much, that's why I want to watch the thigh measurements. However on my current pair there's still room in the thighs, it's the waist thats killing me.

        If I understand you right then you could do with a larger waist than the measurements you posted and a thigh about the same? In that case you've still got a problem, I think. To get the thighs the same you'll need a tagged 31 in the 555-01 but that will end up with an actual 33" waist which will be way too big. The tagged 31 in the 777 will end up with a 32 waist which sounds like it might work for you, but a slimmer thigh than you have now. So, still risky.

        @vittel:

        Any comments on 555 vs 777 in this aspect? (roomy top block and thigh, slim leg, small leg opening?)

        I own the 555-01 but not the 777 (although the denim is the same). They are both slim, tapered jeans. The major difference (I believe) is that the 777 has a lower rise and a more aggressive taper than the 555. Otherwise you can compare the sizing charts yourself and remember, on the 21oz denim you'll get about 3% stretch on all areas that are subjected to stress (waist, thighs, crotch, arse, knees). Good luck.

        “Some of those that work forces
        Are the same that burn crosses”

        • Virginia Woolf
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          vittel
          Joined: 12 Oct 2011

          Thank you for all your suggestions. I was thinking the 555 in tag size 30 might be what I need, but I'll go check out the 777 before I decide.

          Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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            Bluegrass
            Joined: 25 Jan 2013

            "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

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              Simoon
              Joined: 23 Apr 2012

              Skinny fit, it´s relative, for me it´s just a slim tapered, like a 1955 or lvc 1954 with a more slim leg and front/back rise. Fit good on me or on people with VERY skinny legs. If not it´s ridiculous. And inverse, the 666 fit loose on me, ridiculous… I imagine a 634 on me...
              Any idea for the 777, very Nice patch, fit, un alternative between 666 and 555.

              Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

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                Simoon
                Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                Size 31 an me, hemmed with the union spécial, 178cm, 60kg…  I have skinny jeans ( edwin or the best april 77), it´s like leggings, not like this.

                Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Simoon
                  Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                  Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

                  Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

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                    Giles
                    IHUK Crew
                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                    Never say never….But no plans....

                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      Simoon
                      Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                      Okay, maybe one day…

                      Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

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                        Simoon
                        Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                        @Bluegrass:

                        "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

                        Send pix of you and what are your favorite denim now, to compare fits.

                        Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                        last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Bluegrass
                          Joined: 25 Jan 2013

                          I don't have a good pic, but here is a top block and legs, 555-01. In cooler weather I rotate these with various versions of 634 (over-dyed, s, vulcan, SExIH13), beatle busters and Devil's Ducks.

                          This summer I've mostly been wearing the 14oz 666L, Mr Freedom Okinawa and MN topsiders, and Roy Ducks.  This is the 666L - as you noted, much different fit than the 555.  So many choices - all good ones!

                          last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 16:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            4c
                            Banned
                            Joined: 26 Nov 2013

                            @Simoon:

                            Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

                            Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                            This new 25oz collaboration actually looks slimmer than the 555 if the size charts are correct:
                            http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7879.msg418704#new

                            I think this might be the reason for the change from this:
                            @Giles:

                            Dear xx

                            The 555 cut will NOT be done in 25oz.  We like to give our customers the option of being able to procreate at some time in the futrue.

                            Giles

                            to
                            @Giles:

                            Never say never….But no plans....

                            last edited by 7 Aug 2015, 00:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                              Giles
                              IHUK Crew
                              Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                              It's not…..

                              "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                              last edited by 7 Aug 2015, 06:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                kamrai
                                Joined: 12 Aug 2015

                                I don't know about selvedge 21oz in bottoms 634s/ 666s/ 777s / 301s / 555-01
                                These bottoms used selvedge21oz  same type ?
                                sometime I think it dye color differrent.

                                last edited by 12 Aug 2015, 07:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  Giles
                                  IHUK Crew
                                  Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                  21oz in all those cuts is the same fabric, dyed in the same vats, woven on the same loom.  But different batches of natural stuff vary from batch to batch…

                                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                  last edited by 12 Aug 2015, 07:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    stevehm
                                    Joined: 28 Nov 2012

                                    Just noticed Rivet & Hide have 555-01 listed on their website but the sizing is different (and seem ideal for me) than the ones on the IH website. Were these a different batch from the IH batch?

                                    last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 13:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      neph93
                                      見習いボス
                                      Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                      Giles will know for sure, but I believe the first run and second run had very slight differences. The second run was about 0.5-0.8" smaller in the waist. Thighs were about the same though. However, I'm pretty sure R&H got the same restock ..maybe different measuring metods..?

                                      “Some of those that work forces
                                      Are the same that burn crosses”

                                      • Virginia Woolf
                                      last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 15:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        Giles
                                        IHUK Crew
                                        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                        They got a restock….

                                        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                        last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 15:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          neph93
                                          見習いボス
                                          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                          IHUK definitly updated the sizing tables when the 2nd batch came in. I remember because I bought my pair the day they changed. The first batch were similar to/the same as the 555-03. You could always check with Danny and co if they updated their tables.

                                          “Some of those that work forces
                                          Are the same that burn crosses”

                                          • Virginia Woolf
                                          last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 15:50 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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