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IH-555S-21 - 21oz Selvedge Denim Super Slim Jeans - Indigo PREVIOUSLY IH-555-01

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    neph93
    見習いボス
    Joined: 18 Aug 2014

    @vittel:

    Thigh: 11.75"

    @Giles:

    Simple. Dont.

    You'll need a tag size 29 or 30 and the thigh on those will never stretch as much as you need.

    Giles is right. Real world example: My pair of these in tagsize 34 came with a 12.3" thigh it is now at 12.6" after 200 days of wear. That's about 3% stretch which is what you can expect from the 21oz.

    If you needed around 11.75" you'd get it, just, from tagsize 32, but you'd also end up with a waist around 33"-34" and a top block that would be baggy. If it's indigo jeans you're after I'd recommend looking at the 1955 fit or the 634. If you don't mind a flappy waist and a belt then a 32 in the 777 fit may work.

    “Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses”

    • Virginia Woolf
    last edited by 8 Apr 2015, 22:24 4 Aug 2015, 15:06 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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      vittel
      Joined: 12 Oct 2011

      Sorry, let me phrase myself better. I understand that the thighs don't stretch out much, that's why I want to watch the thigh measurements. However on my current pair there's still room in the thighs, it's the waist thats killing me. The feedback on the "comfy rise and roomy top block" is what got me interested. Baggy top block and diaper ass is the opposite of what I am looking for. I wear a belt depending on occasion, not all the time, so I would want a snuggish waist that doesn't have to rely on a belt.

      Any comments on 555 vs 777 in this aspect? (roomy top block and thigh, slim leg, small leg opening?)

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        Giles
        IHUK Crew
        Joined: 22 Sept 2009

        Personally I don't think either of these cuts is not for you, but if you are determined, the 777 would be better…..

        "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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          neph93
          見習いボス
          Joined: 18 Aug 2014

          @vittel:

          Sorry, let me phrase myself better. I understand that the thighs don't stretch out much, that's why I want to watch the thigh measurements. However on my current pair there's still room in the thighs, it's the waist thats killing me.

          If I understand you right then you could do with a larger waist than the measurements you posted and a thigh about the same? In that case you've still got a problem, I think. To get the thighs the same you'll need a tagged 31 in the 555-01 but that will end up with an actual 33" waist which will be way too big. The tagged 31 in the 777 will end up with a 32 waist which sounds like it might work for you, but a slimmer thigh than you have now. So, still risky.

          @vittel:

          Any comments on 555 vs 777 in this aspect? (roomy top block and thigh, slim leg, small leg opening?)

          I own the 555-01 but not the 777 (although the denim is the same). They are both slim, tapered jeans. The major difference (I believe) is that the 777 has a lower rise and a more aggressive taper than the 555. Otherwise you can compare the sizing charts yourself and remember, on the 21oz denim you'll get about 3% stretch on all areas that are subjected to stress (waist, thighs, crotch, arse, knees). Good luck.

          “Some of those that work forces
          Are the same that burn crosses”

          • Virginia Woolf
          last edited by 5 Aug 2015, 22:02 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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            vittel
            Joined: 12 Oct 2011

            Thank you for all your suggestions. I was thinking the 555 in tag size 30 might be what I need, but I'll go check out the 777 before I decide.

            Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

            last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 05:14 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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              Bluegrass
              Joined: 25 Jan 2013

              "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

              last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 14:55 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                Simoon
                Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                Skinny fit, it´s relative, for me it´s just a slim tapered, like a 1955 or lvc 1954 with a more slim leg and front/back rise. Fit good on me or on people with VERY skinny legs. If not it´s ridiculous. And inverse, the 666 fit loose on me, ridiculous… I imagine a 634 on me...
                Any idea for the 777, very Nice patch, fit, un alternative between 666 and 555.

                Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:27 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                  Simoon
                  Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                  Size 31 an me, hemmed with the union spécial, 178cm, 60kg…  I have skinny jeans ( edwin or the best april 77), it´s like leggings, not like this.

                  Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                  last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:29 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                    Simoon
                    Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                    Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

                    Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                    last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:30 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                      Giles
                      IHUK Crew
                      Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                      Never say never….But no plans....

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                      last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                        Simoon
                        Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                        Okay, maybe one day…

                        Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                        last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:45 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                          Simoon
                          Joined: 23 Apr 2012

                          @Bluegrass:

                          "comfy rise and roomy top block" is a good way to describe 555 based on my experience - and the taper is not so dramatic that they look overly skinny.  Very comfortable and well-tailored look imo, a slim fit that works well for a lot of people, but not all.  These fill a unique spot in my collection.

                          Send pix of you and what are your favorite denim now, to compare fits.

                          Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                          last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 15:47 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                            Bluegrass
                            Joined: 25 Jan 2013

                            I don't have a good pic, but here is a top block and legs, 555-01. In cooler weather I rotate these with various versions of 634 (over-dyed, s, vulcan, SExIH13), beatle busters and Devil's Ducks.

                            This summer I've mostly been wearing the 14oz 666L, Mr Freedom Okinawa and MN topsiders, and Roy Ducks.  This is the 666L - as you noted, much different fit than the 555.  So many choices - all good ones!

                            last edited by 6 Aug 2015, 16:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • 4c4
                              4c
                              Banned
                              Joined: 26 Nov 2013

                              @Simoon:

                              Giles, one 555 xhs 25oz is possible in the future ?

                              Envoyé de mon iPhone en utilisant Tapatalk

                              This new 25oz collaboration actually looks slimmer than the 555 if the size charts are correct:
                              http://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7879.msg418704#new

                              I think this might be the reason for the change from this:
                              @Giles:

                              Dear xx

                              The 555 cut will NOT be done in 25oz.  We like to give our customers the option of being able to procreate at some time in the futrue.

                              Giles

                              to
                              @Giles:

                              Never say never….But no plans....

                              last edited by 7 Aug 2015, 00:48 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                Giles
                                IHUK Crew
                                Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                It's not…..

                                "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                last edited by 7 Aug 2015, 06:32 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                  kamrai
                                  Joined: 12 Aug 2015

                                  I don't know about selvedge 21oz in bottoms 634s/ 666s/ 777s / 301s / 555-01
                                  These bottoms used selvedge21oz  same type ?
                                  sometime I think it dye color differrent.

                                  last edited by 12 Aug 2015, 07:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                    Giles
                                    IHUK Crew
                                    Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                    21oz in all those cuts is the same fabric, dyed in the same vats, woven on the same loom.  But different batches of natural stuff vary from batch to batch…

                                    "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                    last edited by 12 Aug 2015, 07:38 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                      stevehm
                                      Joined: 28 Nov 2012

                                      Just noticed Rivet & Hide have 555-01 listed on their website but the sizing is different (and seem ideal for me) than the ones on the IH website. Were these a different batch from the IH batch?

                                      last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 13:58 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                        neph93
                                        見習いボス
                                        Joined: 18 Aug 2014

                                        Giles will know for sure, but I believe the first run and second run had very slight differences. The second run was about 0.5-0.8" smaller in the waist. Thighs were about the same though. However, I'm pretty sure R&H got the same restock ..maybe different measuring metods..?

                                        “Some of those that work forces
                                        Are the same that burn crosses”

                                        • Virginia Woolf
                                        last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 15:10 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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                                          Giles
                                          IHUK Crew
                                          Joined: 22 Sept 2009

                                          They got a restock….

                                          "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

                                          last edited by 21 Aug 2015, 15:22 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
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