IH-8301S - SBG "Super Black Fade-To-Gray" Denim - Slim Cut

[urbanwoodsman]

@Chris:

Because of the pattern, a selvedge edge isn't possible on the 301 cut, but it is, technically speaking, still selvedge denim.

Why is it impossible? Because of the jean pattern being too skinny?

[Giles]

It is a function of the skinniness/design of top block/how the cutting pattern was originally conceived.  The 666S and the 555S are both skinny and have selvage side seam, but this is because I mandated it…

[urbanwoodsman]

Thanks.

[Chris]

Unfortunately, once a pattern is made, it seems like it's really hard to make any changes.  If I remember correctly, that's why the original 634S doesn't have belt loops sewn into the waistband.  They weren't done that way originally, and they've never been changed.  Several subsequent models with the same cut, however, have that detail, because they're new patterns.

(Giles will correct me if I'm wrong…;))

[urbanwoodsman]

Yeah, that's what I assumed. I figured that, when the pattern was made, having a selvedge side seam wasn't all that important or maybe it was just more expensive.

Now, I feel like, since I live in a large city, the selvedge side seam is like having nice rims on a car or something. My clothes are part of my ride as I walk around haha.

[IHBlood]

As a brand new pair,  a black patch would look great.  But once SBG's fade to grey, the natural patch prevails IMO.

[passthestripe]

	27	28	29	30	31	32	33	34	36	38
Waist	28.8	29.2	30.4	31.3	32.4	33.2	34.2	35.3	37.3	39.2
Inseam	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0	38.0
Thigh	10.2	10.5	10.9	11.3	11.5	11.7	12.0	12.3	12.9	13.5
Knee	6.9	7.2	7.3	7.5	7.7	8.0	8.2	8.4	8.8	9.2
Leg 	6.6	6.7	6.9	7.1	7.3	7.6	7.8	7.9	8.4	8.7
Rise	9.0	9.1	9.3	9.6	9.8	10.0	10.3	10.5	10.8	11.4

Damn, 31 looks right on the money for me. 

[bagley920]

Love this denim but the cut is too slim for me

[xtcclassic]

@ronaldlsh:

I would love a 634 version for this denim. But I'm pretty sure we will get there one day.

Ditto on a 666 version.

[RocknRoll]

A while back there were unconfirmed mutterings that a 666 in the grey denim may be on the cards at some stage.

[Giles]

Not quite…. You are right in that is difficult to change, but not impossible.  The reason that we have not done it is that as soon as we do the "old" model becomes a problem to sell.

[stingray1381]

These are somewhat bigger then the previous 301s.

Also, surprised folks find the visible selvedge line so important for a jean with this much taper.  I find 301s aren't really designed to cuff.

[crankyfart]

Reckon these are better for stacks than cuffs. Just check out twins pair. Awesome looking jawns!

[mankarat]

Stacks looks good with sneakers… Dont work quite well on a boots... I will get this... Really in love with sbg characters... Wondering why its not selling well compare to normal 21oz denim...more people choose denim blue than denim black i guess.. The selvedge side seams are just for showing, not really important as long as you know the fabric are selvedge, that are good enough

[georgeel]

sbg busters rule!

[kiya]

Hey all,

I'd like to clarify something about side seam selvedge.  The reason the 666, Beatle Buster, etc.. have side seam selvedge is because the outer leg is straight.  From the hip to the end of the leg it's literally a straight line.  To achieve the exact slim cut we wanted with the 301s we had to taper the leg from the inner and outer seam, hence the non showing selvedge.  The selvedge edge obviously runs in a straight line so unless the jean's outer leg is cut completely straight there's no way to show the selvedge edge.  Same reason why you can't have a true bootcut jean with a selvedge edge showing all the way up the leg.

[crankyfart]

that solved all the explanation. good on ya mate!

[Guest]

So…any diehards jump on these?

[urbanwoodsman]

Just hemmed.

Size 34

[Finn666]

the length is perfect imo and the cut looks great on you…what size did you went with btw.?