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    • cityofdelusionC
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      I was thinking about buying a few IHTs but the fit is a bit off for my taste.

      My suggestion is that the IHT-1610 and IHT-1600 could be slightly longer in the overall length and the sleeve length could be shorter. I feel like that would make a perfect fit. I wear size small.

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      • Paul9221P
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        @doguhanca:

        I was thinking about buying a few IHTs but the fit is a bit off for my taste.

        My suggestion is that the IHT-1610 and IHT-1600 could be slightly longer in the overall length and the sleeve length could be shorter. I feel like that would make a perfect fit. I wear size small.

        Like this? 😃

        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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        • cityofdelusionC
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          ^ No, not at all. Like I said, just slightly longer. Perhaps it's just how the proportions of size small are compared to other sizes.

          To me, the IHTs seem to be on the shorter side and the sleeve length on the longer side. It was just a suggestion of course. I don't know how well the IHTs sell. If they sell well, no need to change anything based on the minority's (or perhaps just my) opinion of course.

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          • Paul9221P
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            I'm just messing with you.  I know what you mean.  Considering most of the people on here I feel are taller than me (or at least that's how it feels), I'm surprised that the shirts aren't longer, but then again, I get the same length from 3Sixteen, Self Edge, and Freenote Cloth shirts, so maybe the shortness is done on purpose, like in the case of a type III jacket.

            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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            • cityofdelusionC
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              @Paul9221:

              I'm just messing with you.  I know what you mean.  Considering most of the people on here I feel are taller than me (or at least that's how it feels), I'm surprised that the shirts aren't longer, but then again, I get the same length from 3Sixteen, Self Edge, and Freenote Cloth shirts, so maybe the shortness is done on purpose, like in the case of a type III jacket.

              I know, I know - That photo you posted was hideous by the way 😃

              You're right, I've also noticed that some other Japanese brands tend to make the length of their T-Shirts shorter. Perhaps it's some type of style that I have no idea about. It'd be interesting to know if the IHTs actually sell well enough. If not, some tweaks here and there could make it a bit more popular. Win-win I'd say ::)

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              • neph93N
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                The IHT-1610 and its printed iterations sell well. The more traditional 7.5oz do ok in the west but have been cut like they are for years with the exception of some small variations in length. They are perhaps more popular in Japan.

                The problem with the idea of tweaks for the western market is that the tee’s have always been a core product in Japan. You’d either have to introduce the new cut in both markets (risky) or you start making a western cut and Japanese cut (with no idea about sales of the new western cut and the increased overheads to tackle).

                I have heard rumours of possible future changes in the way IH do tees however. New models, new lines etc. We’ll have to wait and see what happens next.

                “Some of those that work forces
                Are the same that burn crosses”

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                • cityofdelusionC
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                  @neph93:

                  The IHT-1610 and its printed iterations sell well. The more traditional 7.5oz do ok in the west but have been cut like they are for years with the exception of some small variations in length. They are perhaps more popular in Japan.

                  The problem with the idea of tweaks for the western market is that the tee’s have always been a core product in Japan. You’d either have to introduce the new cut in both markets (risky) or you start making a western cut and Japanese cut (with no idea about sales of the new western cut and the increased overheads to tackle).

                  I have heard rumours of possible future changes in the way IH do tees however. We’ll have to wait and see what happens next spring.

                  Thanks Reuben, for the detailed insight. I was going with a somewhat identical logic regarding the IHTs having such a short length since I've seen multiple Japanese Instagram users with a rather short T-Shirt. Seems to be very popular there indeed.

                  I think it'd be worth trying out a new cut in that case, specifically meant for the western market as I feel like the sales could significantly rise if the T-Shirts were tweaked in those areas. However, as you mentioned already, it remains to be a big question mark and a risk.

                  Very excited about the further iterations of the IHT series. Hopefully it won't just be the printed tees that will get an update but also the classic ones. I don't quite fancy the printed tees for everyday-casual purposes.

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                  • neph93N
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                    @doguhanca:

                    Very excited about the further iterations of the IHT series. Hopefully it won't just be the printed tees that will get an update but also the classic ones. I don't quite fancy the printed tees for everyday-casual purposes.

                    I suspect the «clean» variant of an eventual new tee would be an ever-present basic, with printed versions coming later, much in the same way as the IHT-1700/1800/1900 (as well as other iterations) all use the IHT-1610 base.

                    “Some of those that work forces
                    Are the same that burn crosses”

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                    • GilesG
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                      It will happen, when though, we are negotiating…. 🙂

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • Paul9221P
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                        I assume that the t-shirt length has something to do with the average Japanese man's torso length, which is probably shorter than most westerners.  Just a thought.

                        Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                        • DionD
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                          I remember the new T cut will have more fitted sleeves which should be pretty nice. Personally I love the IH Ts although I thought they would be too short on me first but they drape very well and do have a great fit. I also got used to the slightly larger sleeves rather quickly and they don't worry me at all by now.

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                          • cityofdelusionC
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                            @Giles:

                            It will happen, when though, we are negotiating…. 🙂

                            Looking very much forward to the new iterations @Giles. If they fit me right, I will make sure to donate all of my old T-Shirts to a charity and buy a few of the new IHTs to wear all the time for the next years to come 🙂

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                            • AdamJA
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                              @Paul9221:

                              I assume that the t-shirt length has something to do with the average Japanese man's torso length, which is probably shorter than most westerners.  Just a thought.

                              If that's the case then I must have a very much Japanese torso

                              The devil is in the detail..

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                              • Paul9221P
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                                @AdamJ:

                                @Paul9221:

                                I assume that the t-shirt length has something to do with the average Japanese man's torso length, which is probably shorter than most westerners.  Just a thought.

                                If that's the case then I must have a very much Japanese torso

                                That's what the 'J' in "AdamJ" stands for, right? 🙂

                                Blanket-line all the things!!!

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                                • AlexA
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                                  @AdamJ:

                                  @Paul9221:

                                  I assume that the t-shirt length has something to do with the average Japanese man's torso length, which is probably shorter than most westerners.  Just a thought.

                                  If that's the case then I must have a very much Japanese torso

                                  Nah, just short

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                                  • steelworkerS
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                                    @Paul9221:

                                    @Giles:

                                    We did a green chambray, did not sell particularly well which pissed me off because it was my idea  🙂 🙂

                                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/extinct/ihsh-46-green.html

                                    That's actually really nice!  I'd buy that!

                                    I'd be all over this  😎
                                    The red and s&p 46 too

                                    Those are my principles, and if you don't like them…
                                    Well, I have others.

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                                    • The_Bourbon_Denim_GuyT
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                                      I’m sure it has been mentioned several times already, but I wish Iron Heart would come out with a 25oz denim jacket.  I’m a huge fan of my IH-666-XHS and IH-526V-XHS [emoji123].  I’ve asked in the past, and was always told that “it is too heavy to do the stitching for the sleeves”, but I have 25oz jackets from other companies, like my Samurai S551XX25OZ-20TH Anniversary Type I.  There is without a doubt a market here.  Maybe even do a test run with pre-orders only and eliminate all risk [emoji2369].

                                      Take it a step further….... add the ultra heavy flannel material as a liner, and a custom Good Art Pocket Snap.  I will throw all my money at you [emoji1787][emoji119][emoji158]

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        It may not work for some reason, but if the sleeves are difficult in that weight, perhaps the body could be 25oz and the sleeves 21oz. It kind of makes sense actually since your trunk is generally what you're trying to keep more warm (which is why vests are a thing).

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • J
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                                          I think people,myself included,would loose their minds over an XHSib Type III. I think that it’s been stated that the problem is sewing the sleeves to the body of the jacket. Someone correct me if I’m wrong about this.

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                                          • Paul9221P
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                                            SE just put out a 23oz OD Type III.  What's 2 more oz? 🙂

                                            Blanket-line all the things!!!

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