Iron Heart Products - What do you think we should make?
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@manufc10 if I was into lightweight denim I would totally get a pair of jeans from this Viapiana. These are sublimely awesome http://www.viapiana.ca/workwear/
Tons of lighter weight denim to pick from.
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If we consider old-timey western and work wear that much of the JP denim world used as original inspiration, it was lighter weight fabrics in the 10-12 oz range.
I feel that if IH were a repro/vintage brand this would be fine. But they aren’t. Sure the designs are inspired by blueprints from the past but Haraki-san mostly used post war templates for his clothes. Even the 634 is based on post war Levi’s. And H isn’t concerned with accuracy either in the way RMC are, for example.
I agree with regards to density of weave, thickness, heaviness all being variable factors. If you look at the retired 18oz denim it is far, far tighter in its weave than the 21oz. I’m speculating but I would imagine H saw the two as different approaches to diffeeent riding situations. I have a feeling that the heaviness of the denim is often about aesthetic as much as practical advantage. This may be one reason why 10oz IH denim never gets made.
All the Japanese brands (and Mr. Freedom) have their own concepts and approaches. IH have the heaviness, the over engineering and biker aesthetic. Samurai have the vintage fade and construction. RMc have the repro thing and TFH have the post modern Americana/pop culture thing. These are concepts that give each brand creative inspiration and also identify. But if these brands stray too far from the DNA of what they do and started making everything and anything, then that identity becomes diluted.
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@Filthy:
@manufc10 if I was into lightweight denim I would totally get a pair of jeans from this Viapiana. These are sublimely awesome http://www.viapiana.ca/workwear/
Tons of lighter weight denim to pick from.
Wow…all custom?
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All custom, I have so many jeans but I want him to make me a flannel lined pair of those in a 15 oz denim or indigo duck. I have been meaning to write to him but never got around to it.
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If we consider old-timey western and work wear that much of the JP denim world used as original inspiration, it was lighter weight fabrics in the 10-12 oz range.
…...But if these brands stray too far from the DNA of what they do and started making everything and anything, then that identity becomes diluted.
IH has made polo shirts, sweatpants, and coffee cups…..I'm failing to see how a 12oz denim strays farther away from the brand's DNA and identity than those items.
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@Filthy:
All custom, I have so many jeans but I want him to make me a flannel lined pair of those in a 15 oz denim or indigo duck. I have been meaning to write to him but never got around to it.
Thanks @Filthy, I'll check them out.
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i’m enjoy this conversation
i been here a little while and have seen some hits and misses from Iron Heart
as long as the same attention 2 detail and thoughtful design goes into it i will continue 2 support wherever it is the team dreams up
we tend 2 put our own identity into things we love and it’s no different with this religion i mean brand
bring on the area rugs, mugs, polo tops and sweatpants imho it doesn’t take away but expands the brand cause it’s not done 4 the sake of doing but because we the customers usually ask 4 it
still waiting on button down collar oxford shirts made out of the fabric used 4 the 13 & 21
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IH has made polo shirts, sweatpants, and coffee cups…..I'm failing to see how a 12oz denim strays farther away from the brand's DNA and identity than those items.
Heavyweight denim is absolutely central to IH, it is the brand’s raison d'être. Polo shirts, coffee cups and sweatpants are not, no?
I can labour the point if you like, but
I’m afraid the brand is never going to produce everything everyone wants. The things it doesn’t make define it as much as the things it does. -
Call me crazy / scream heresy all you want, but this jacket - minus the front pocket and possibly in Superblack or SBG or dare I say indigo/black - would make my panties wet big time. I know it’s not a type I without the front pocket but damn.
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this jacket - minus the front pocket and possibly in Superblack or SBG or dare I say indigo/black - would make my panties wet big time…
That would be very clean and smart.
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