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    • gaseousclayG
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      @neph93:

      Aside from price point, I fail to see the need or attraction. If it’s that cold then layers are your best bet anyway, so long johns. Technical speaking, wool is much better to have closest to the skin in cold weather than cotton, and why waste all the good flannel on lining legs? Lining of a jacket I could get on board with, but not jeans.

      I wear thermals everday during the winter months. Suits me just fine unless it dips into subzero temps. Flannel lined denim would make me melt indoors. Agree though that layers are best

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      WTB:
      IHSH-129 size L (blue)
      IHSH-19

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        @neph93:

        Aside from price point, I fail to see the need or attraction. If it’s that cold then layers are your best bet anyway, so long johns. Technical speaking, wool is much better to have closest to the skin in cold weather than cotton, and why waste all the good flannel on lining legs? Lining of a jacket I could get on board with, but not jeans.

        Given where you live, I'd assume lined jeans might be appealing to you for some situations. I agree on the sentiments: - lined jeans are a small market, primarily for outdoor use. Indoors would be too warm. However in New England where I grew up in old, uninsulated houses, wearing warm layers indoors in winter is/was common; using aspero cotton is certainly not the best application of this fabric, so a lining should be something else.

        Unless it's good quality wool that has a soft face (merino, etc.), wool is irritating. Cotton is soft and has decent insulating properties, but it absorbs water water, unlike wool, and will make you dangerously cold if active in cold temps. In the mountain communities where I live cotton is know as Death Cloth.  ???

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        • neph93N
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          ^ exactly the problem. Cotton lined jeans here would probably freeze on your legs. The standard longs used in Norway are indeed made of very finely spun wool, often but not always merino. They are very soft and comfortable. Giving a lady friend a full set of quality wool underwear is considered very romantic in fact.

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          We had dreams, and songs to sing…»

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          • David K.K. HansenD
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            If I had UHF lined jeans I'd wear them commando… I know, unnecessary information for you guys, but hey, that's what I'd do.

            Speaking of warm clothing, has the idea of a zipped duck hoody ever been brought up?  Lined with UHF, alpaca or whatnot...?

            (ooooh, brown duck lined with red x black buffalo!)

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            • David K.K. HansenD
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              @neph93:

              ^ exactly the problem. Cotton lined jeans here would probably freeze on your legs. The standard longs used in Norway are indeed made of very finely spun wool, often but not always merino. They are very soft and comfortable. Giving a lady friend a full set of quality wool underwear is considered very romantic in fact.

              Yes, wool as laying for the win.  As sexy as UHF lined jeans sounds, it wouldn't be the best option to keep warm (and dry) in Northern climates.

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              • waveoffazeW
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                How did the previous run(s) of flannel-lined type 3 jackets sell? A fella in the UK was selling one like a year ago on Grailed and it looked amazing

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                • GilesG
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                  We did a blanket lined Type III, not flannel.  It sold like crap (not crack)…

                  SE may have done a flannel lined one, I can't remember....

                  "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                  • Max PowerM
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                    I think he meant this:
                    https://www.ironheart.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=7102.msg386833#msg386833

                    @elclintor:

                    > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                    • GilesG
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                      Thanks Max.  That sold like crap too!

                      "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                      • tfahey00T
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                        That's crazy… it looks like an amazing jacket! Did you get any feedback regarding why people avoided it?

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                        • hajdukH
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                          I di really hope to see one day a type III sherpa lined with hand pockets…✌️

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                          "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                          • GilesG
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                            They came up small (but that should only affected the big boys) and they were pretty expensive….

                            "OK face up to it - you're useless but generally pretty honest and straightforward . . . it's a rare combination of qualities that I have come to admire in you" - Geo 2011

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                            • hajdukH
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                              Very small. I do remember…

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                              "Ignorance, allied with power, is the most ferocious enemy justice can have" James Baldwin.

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                              • JDelageJ
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                                Maybe we need a thread somewhere "Why I'm not buying XYZ" where non-buyers could give feedback on product…

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                                • Max PowerM
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                                  ^I like that idea. but then we would probably argue about the perfect sleeve length for pages and pages.

                                  @elclintor:

                                  > I don't care what people say.. The Max Power way is the right way…

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                                  • UnTuckedU
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                                    @Max:

                                    …we would probably argue about the perfect sleeve length for pages and pages.

                                    This, lol!

                                    In search of:
                                    IHV-04, med.
                                    IHSH-185, large
                                    IHSH-186, large (khaki, and green)

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                                    • rocketR
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                                      Yep, think there are four major points, item, sizing, timing, price and it would circle around these.
                                      Like; no swing power, wrong sizing, all ready owning ( too many of ) a certain item, wrong release timing…

                                      It is a difficult game, with a lot variables in it and a huge human factor...

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                                      R.I.P. Geo

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                                      • MastersOfDeathM
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                                        Whilst we're on the subject of something-lined…..

                                        hunting jacket /chore coat type thing (chunting coat?)

                                        Similar to 528 - 4 pocket with slash hand warmers on or behind bottom pockets,
                                        Black or brown duck & 21oz denim
                                        zip and snaps
                                        Blanket lined
                                        Cord collar like 533 (black on black, brown on duck & denim)
                                        Bi swing arms
                                        Storm cuffs

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                                        • ColeC
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                                          @rocket:

                                          Yep, think there are four major points, item, sizing, timing, price and it would circle around these.
                                          Like; no swing power, wrong sizing, all ready owning ( too many of ) a certain item, wrong release timing…

                                          It is a difficult game, with a lot variables in it and a huge human factor...

                                          I corrected this for you.

                                          I mean come on, you know who you are writing to and there are no wifes reading this treat anyways, so lets face the fact that owning a certain amount of IH items in one category has never stoped one of us from "needing" one more item that may apear similar but in reality, to the expert denim aficionados eye  😃 , is totaly different then the other four in the closet.

                                          (Yes I have about 20 IH Shirts (all totaly different) in my closet and I might need more)

                                          WTB:
                                          IHJ-96-OLV Size L
                                          IHE-13

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                                            Hematoma
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                                            @Cole:

                                            @rocket:

                                            Yep, think there are four major points, item, sizing, timing, price and it would circle around these.
                                            Like; no swing power, wrong sizing, all ready owning ( too many of ) a certain item, wrong release timing…

                                            It is a difficult game, with a lot variables in it and a huge human factor...

                                            I corrected this for you.

                                            I mean come on, you know who you are writing to and there are no wifes reading this treat anyways, so lets face the fact that owning a certain amount of IH items in one category has never stoped one of us from "needing" one more item that may apear similar but in reality, to the expert denim aficionados eye  😃 , is totaly different then the other four in the closet.

                                            (Yes I have about 20 IH Shirts (all totaly different) in my closet and I might need more)

                                            lol. In all honesty this IS the biggest detractor for me. I can't really justify more than 1 big outerwear purchase a year - if something like the scarlet flannel lined type III comes out, I'm gonna pass since it's expensive and basically looks the same as my others, even though denim jackets are my favorite outerwear.  An item has to be different enough from the "standard issue" version for me to justify another one, which is why I think a lined denim-style jacket should be non-type III (or, if it's gonna be type III, a fabric like whipcord, or even wool).

                                            I very well could be an anomaly though.

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