Y'2 Leathers….
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not an easy one to size this jacket.. It seems it has shrunken quite a bit when compared to your first pic.
I have a 44 coming but I am wondering if I should not asked TJ to send me a 46.. I am most of the times a XL in IH shirts/jackets -
@tvaillant75 yeah it ”shrunk” or formed quite significantly from being brand new.
At least in my experience. Because the slightly heavy/stiff horsehide the creases in the arms stay in place. They became shorter for sure. Even if the jacket just hanging on a hanger, the arms are slightly bend and the creases are there.
And the total length also formed to my body and kind of shrunk too. Not nearly as much as the arms. But it changed alot for me. So buying a horsehide jackets slightly snug to begin with, is potentially not the best idea.
Mine felt bigger in the beginning and form “smaller”. So it kind of became perfect for me.I often wear it open, with a denim shirt or hoodie. I can’t wear both layer under, it’s then too tight and feel restricted. But I didn’t buy it for many layering.
TJ helped a ton for me figuring out the right size for me. He is very good to elaborate on sizes, ideas and any concerns. I would totally send him a DM
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@tvaillant75 You can kind of see where the arms stops at my hands. On the left picture the jacket is brand new, I think the same day I got it. And the right picture is from now. Almost a year of wear. And you can see it’s significantly shorter in the arms.
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@NickD is your chore also fairly slim fit? Or did you go for a roomier fit?
Perhaps I need to size up to a 46 then…
I’m an XL in most Ironheart shirts, XXL in the overdyed. I initially thought 44 in the chore might fit, but I worry the lining might make it a bit too snug? Really tough call….
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@tvaillant75 i've had a few y2 jackets and in my experience its better to get something slightly bigger - if it fits perfect on day one it will feel tighter down the road, whereas slightly oversized on day one will from around you to a comfier fit......its a lot like the heavier denim thing before and after an initial soak/wash
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@mecken88 Thanks for elaborating really appreciated. I have one jacket on order and given the price it's a bit of a leap of faith to order without trying, hence the overthinking
I will reach out to TJ, and consider sizing up to a 46. As many said, better a tad larger than tighter.
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@Darth-fader Thanks for weighing in, again this forum is a great source of information and I appreciate you all take the time to chip in.
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@tvaillant75 - think I mentioned this at some point on this thread but I have both a 40 and 42 in the unlined roughout chore and both drape fine over layers, however when I had the 40 kakishibu chore the 40 was too tight to realistically layer once broken in so put an order in for a 42 for a bit more chest/shoulder movement. For reference I’m a size Large in all of my IH shirts.
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@tvaillant75 trust me, I was in the same situation. Living in the northern part of Sweden we have no shop that even sell resemble jackets.. so I asked a lot of people, measured a million times. And paired that with elaborating all thoughts with TJ. He is the man, and gladly helps out the best he can!🥰
So from all the people helping me, I’m glad if I can repay in any shape or form if I can🫶
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@tvaillant75 I would say ever so slightly maybe, not the biggest difference in chest for me. By size chart the chest width on a size 42 is supposed to be 22,5” pit-to-pit.
And if I measure it now, it’s 56cm pit-to-pit that’s equivalent to 22,04”
And I never measured it to begin with so can’t say for sure exactly how much it may have shrunk in chest. But maybe a little if I trust the chart, that say it’s 22,5” and it’s now 22,04”
So maybe expect some “shrinkage” in the chest. But shouldn’t be so much. At least not for me, the biggest change was by far the arms length
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I’ll give some reference material here. I’m 6’4 and 190 pounds. I typically wear XL to XXL in Iron Heart, the vast majority of my Iron Heart outerwear is XL with a few in XXL where I needed extra length. I could wear a L in a lot of Iron Heart if I wanted something really tight and fitted. I wear Ship John in a large for a Wills, there’s still extra room in the chest at my current weight.
I have a Henry, Tom and Scar from Y2. The Henry is a 44 and has always been very fitted on me, it was almost too tight when I crept up to 210 pounds this winter. I bought the Tom in a 46, if’s definitely big on me in the chest, especially after loosing some weight. I’m hoping it drapes a bit better once it’s broken in, it’s very stiff leather compared to my other two. The scar I purchased in a 44 and would say it’s one of my best fitting jackets. I could layer in it if I wanted to but it looks good without. Not too tight or loose. I find the leather jackets definitely look weird on you when you first get them, you have to let them break in.
Hope that helps a bit.
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@tvaillant75 this has been my problem, the chest measurements tend to be a little too snug on a lot of y2 jackets unless I go a size up, which I find works best as if the shoulders are a little large they will shape to fit the more you wear it (especially if the jacket gets wet) I have found the jackets tend to shrink down more rather than stretch out
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Interestingly mine is 21 inches/53cm pit to pit, so an inch smaller thank @mecken88’s even though they are tagged the same size, and 1.5 inches smaller than the chart. It explains why it fits me well though, that’s about perfect pit to pit for me.
It’s not that much of a surprise though, there’s always a fair amount of measurement difference on leather jackets.
