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    • WhiskeySandwichW
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      I have one about belt loops... Especially with the heavier denims, I find the rear belt loop digging into my spine in certain situations (leaned back on the chopper seat especially, but also laying on garage floors under a car, etc.). For obvious reasons I don't notice it as much with the 14oz, which is part of why I gravitate towards it. I've wondered if dual rears would help this or make it worse....

      "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
      -Seneca

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      • WhiskeySandwichW
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        @68degreesorless IMO the trick with the dishwasher is to not overload it. they always work best when you leave some room and do more loads.

        "The greatest obstacle to living is expectancy, which hangs upon tomorrow and loses today...The whole future lies in uncertainty: Live immediately."
        -Seneca

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        • jimcordJ
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          @68degreesorless dishwasher soap actually needs grease to fully activate the soap, completely cleaning them first actually helps defeat the process.

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          • 68degreesorless6
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            @jimcord well i'll be damned, you and my wife are both correct I suppose

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            • ARNCA
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              We’re really leaning into the controversies this week – condiment choices, thermostat settings and dishwasher stacking. Not sure there’s anything bigger that won’t provoke the wrath of the mods!

              “Every day that you survive you get a free sunset“

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              • MizmazzleM
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                @68degreesorless the real question is, are you going to humbly approach your wife now to let her know she was right about this and probably every other thing you've argued about over the years??

                In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                • Tago MagoT
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                  I live by one rule, happy wife happy life

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                  • 68degreesorless6
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                    @Mizmazzle never miss an opportunity to tell her she's right

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                    • pechelmanP
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                      Minutefood did a great YouTube video on the dishwasher thing. Everything she does is great though. Basically it echos the above with some minor exceptions.

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                      • MizmazzleM
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                        @68degreesorless smart man

                        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                        • mclaincauseyM
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                          I definitely at least get rid of larger particles of food just because I'm too lazy to want to clean the trap too often.

                          Related rant: why in the fuck is most dishwasher detergent scented? It tends to permeate silicone and plastics. It makes no sense to me at all. Laundry detergent, soap, shampoo, conditioner, or lotion? Sure, I get it. Dishwasher detergent? Nope, can't think of a single reason for it.

                          We found some unscented pods we use but still eschew the dishwasher to handwash certain items.

                          Think it, be it.

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                          • SKTS
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                            @mclaincausey said

                            Related rant: why in the fuck is most dishwasher detergent scented? It tends to permeate silicone and plastics. It makes no sense to me at all.

                            THIS ^

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                            • MizmazzleM
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                              @mclaincausey there's a trap to clean!??

                              In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                              • SKTS
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                                @Mizmazzle if you don’t know it’s there, you don’t have to clean it

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                                • MizmazzleM
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                                  @SKT PHEW! I tend to give a decent brush down before placing in the machine.

                                  In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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                                  • SKTS
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                                    I only clean off “chunks”. If it’s sauce or dried on the plate I throw it in as is. I swear our newer dishwasher goes for like 4 hours on the “auto” setting…supposedly more efficient that way.

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                                      @mclaincausey My wife and I both worked extensively in Market Research and while neither one of us ever worked on dish washer detergent,I can bet you any amount of money that when they test these products the vast majority of the respondents preferred the “Clean” scent/smell. If they didn’t it would be gone in a heartbeat.

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                                      • mclaincauseyM
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                                        @Jett129 that may be true, but if the research wasn’t well designed it’s moot. They may like that smell in a focus group, but until they experience real world impact like their child’s plastic water bottle smelling and tasting like soap or a spatula imparting soap flavor onto food a truly reflective test has not been conducted. I’m grateful that Finish doesn’t do that nonsense on theirs.

                                        My suspicion is that it is rooted more in psychology than customer preferences. The book The Power of Habit discussed how sensual impact has been used by toothpaste companies (the tingling of toothpaste) and Frebreeze (the scent) for form habit anchors and product loyalty. If that’s true, then the test may have been more of a “which of these scents do you prefer?” Than a “do you prefer scented detergent?” Irrespective of incorporating downstream impacts such as those im bitching about.

                                        Think it, be it.

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                                        • popvultureP
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                                          My mom used to buy this detergent that was grapefruit scented, and I asked her “why do you bother with that? It’s not like it makes your dishes actually smell. Besides, you wouldn’t want it to.” She laughed and realized how weird a concept it was.

                                          I use that Seventh Generation stuff and have never noticed it making anything smell perfumey.

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                                          • Denman JohnD
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                                            Damn, all of you have dishwashers? Guess I should move into the 21 century

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