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    IHSH-293-OD - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo Overdyed Black

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      talexander
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      In my opinion the 293 is wayyyy softer. I love both and have worn both extensively, but in my opinion they're almost complete opposites in terms of softness and drape.

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      • MizmazzleM
        Mizmazzle
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        @talexander thanks dude. I appreciate that. So the 293 drapes heavy and easy compared to the 409?

        In the easy chair with my boots on, melted whiskey in my hand. Could'na been asleep for more than three hours...time to go to work again...

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          talexander
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          I wouldn't say it drapes heavier, but I feel the fabric isn't anywhere near as stiff as the 409, so it just hangs on the body better. I can actually hear the fabric of the 409 when I bend my arms. I don't own a lefty, but of all the IH gear I have, the 409 is the crunchiest for lack of a better description.

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          • clutchdealerC
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            I knew I should have waited to get this one instead of the 292. You guys are killing my bank account.

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            • LarkensL
              Larkens
              Haraki san Student
              @Mizmazzle
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              @Mizmazzle yeah it’s both softer and drapes better from the start compared to the 409 (even after a year). And indeed @talexander nowhere near as stiff as the 409 in the beginning 👌

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              • BrandreaB
                Brandrea
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                This is really helpful guys, thank you!

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                  Gavin666
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                  Anyone that’s got both, how stiff is this compared to the 14oz ib shirt?

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                  • fuzzybunniesF
                    fuzzybunnies
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                    Been waiting on this one for a while and just now learning about the 409! Glad for my wallet they aren't releasing at the same time lol

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                      dugafola
                      The Unwoven
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                      @natefreezy got it. I think it also depends on where you live and how cold it gets. I’m in central coast of California and temps are moderate. I wear the 293 over a T and a long sleeve T at most. I know many like to wear it over a hoody or flannel but the shirt offers such a great silhouette with minimal underlayers.

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                      • AdamJA
                        AdamJ
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                        @Gavin666 softer than the 14oz ib from the start IMO. The 14ozib is noticeably more rigid when you put it on to begin with but softens over time

                        The devil is in the detail..

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                        • BrandreaB
                          Brandrea
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                          I’m still trying to get my head around this one … I just love what I’m seeing in the pictures here.

                          Is this going to feel like I’m wearing a denim (jean jacket), or is it more like a heavy shirt with some “ridged” drape?

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                          • AdamJA
                            AdamJ
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                            @Brandrea definitely the latter. The overdying softens it up. Feels like wearing a conventional denim shirt with a little more heft

                            The devil is in the detail..

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                            • BrandreaB
                              Brandrea
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                              @AdamJ Many thanks Adam, really appreciate it.

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                              • BrandreaB
                                Brandrea
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                                And maybe one more question from a relative newbie … can Goodart snaps be added?

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                                • AdamJA
                                  AdamJ
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                                  @Brandrea Yep for sure!

                                  The devil is in the detail..

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                                    tvaillant75
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                                    Hi guys @ShopatIronHeart is the measurement chart on the product page the latest one?

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                                    • AdamJA
                                      AdamJ
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                                      @tvaillant75 not yet, it is being re-measured as we speak

                                      The devil is in the detail..

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                                      • JamesBJ
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                                        Sizing chart can now be found in the first post.
                                        Please be aware you may not be able to view the product’s website page leading up to launch, as it will be briefly offline whilst we prepare for the release at LIVE on Tuesday 4th November at 1600GMT

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                                        • RichardR
                                          Richard
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                                          @Brandrea It's so soft. Quickly. The chest pockets are stiff at first, but the entire garment seems, bizarrely, like a very heavy linen.

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                                          • RichardR
                                            Richard
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                                            @Gavin666 It seems softer than my 14oz type 3 OD.....

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