IHSH-293-OD - 18oz Vintage Selvedge Denim CPO Shirt - Indigo Overdyed Black
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In my opinion the 293 is wayyyy softer. I love both and have worn both extensively, but in my opinion they're almost complete opposites in terms of softness and drape.
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@talexander thanks dude. I appreciate that. So the 293 drapes heavy and easy compared to the 409?
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I wouldn't say it drapes heavier, but I feel the fabric isn't anywhere near as stiff as the 409, so it just hangs on the body better. I can actually hear the fabric of the 409 when I bend my arms. I don't own a lefty, but of all the IH gear I have, the 409 is the crunchiest for lack of a better description.
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I knew I should have waited to get this one instead of the 292. You guys are killing my bank account.
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@Mizmazzle yeah it’s both softer and drapes better from the start compared to the 409 (even after a year). And indeed @talexander nowhere near as stiff as the 409 in the beginning

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This is really helpful guys, thank you!
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Anyone that’s got both, how stiff is this compared to the 14oz ib shirt?
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Been waiting on this one for a while and just now learning about the 409! Glad for my wallet they aren't releasing at the same time lol
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@natefreezy got it. I think it also depends on where you live and how cold it gets. I’m in central coast of California and temps are moderate. I wear the 293 over a T and a long sleeve T at most. I know many like to wear it over a hoody or flannel but the shirt offers such a great silhouette with minimal underlayers.
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I’m still trying to get my head around this one … I just love what I’m seeing in the pictures here.
Is this going to feel like I’m wearing a denim (jean jacket), or is it more like a heavy shirt with some “ridged” drape?
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@AdamJ Many thanks Adam, really appreciate it.
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And maybe one more question from a relative newbie … can Goodart snaps be added?
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Hi guys @ShopatIronHeart is the measurement chart on the product page the latest one?
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@tvaillant75 not yet, it is being re-measured as we speak
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@Brandrea It's so soft. Quickly. The chest pockets are stiff at first, but the entire garment seems, bizarrely, like a very heavy linen.
